Gary M Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, BillStime said: Who are the governors of those states? Who opened too soon, too fast and too irresponsibly and are currently experiencing the consequences of those actions? I believe the real question is why didn't NY close faster!!! Like in November. You think this virus is out of control? 0.28% of the worlds population has been infected. Edited July 29, 2020 by Gary M
Chef Jim Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, BillStime said: Why haven't you reached out to your Brietbart sponsored doctor who sees a low-cost drug working in the field for advice? She is so resourceful. Who are the governors of those states? Who opened too soon, too fast and too irresponsibly and are currently experiencing the consequences of those actions? You conveniently missed a big one. And funny how you blame the governors but you post a pic of Trump. Trump Trump Trump Trump. Tool There are study after study suggesting that the damage done to people's financial and mental health by not reopening will greatly outweigh the damage done by the virus. 1
BillStime Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gary M said: I believe the real question is why didn't NY close faster!!! You think this virus is out of control? 0.28% of the worlds population has been infected. If only Trump was forthcoming with his intelligence in November 2019 150,000+ Americans wouldn't be dead. Trump's incompetence, lack of leadership, and dereliction of duty has led to so many unnecessary pain and suffering. Thank you for his support - all these dead people appreciate it. 6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: You conveniently missed a big one. And funny how you blame the governors but you post a pic of Trump. Trump Trump Trump Trump. Tool There are study after study suggesting that the damage done to people's financial and mental health by not reopening will greatly outweigh the damage done by the virus. Who are these submissive red state governors looking to appease? YOU TOOL!
Gary M Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: If only Trump was forthcoming with his intelligence in November 2019 150,000+ Americans wouldn't be dead. Trump's incompetence, lack of leadership, and dereliction of duty has led to so many unnecessary pain and suffering. Thank you for his support - all these dead people appreciate it. Not sure where you get this November thing, the WHO didn't announce that Kung Flu could be transmitted human to human until January. So you are claiming that Trump knew more than the WHO? Virus going to virus, no grandstanding by a politician is going to stop it, all we could do was slow it down. And I am certain a good statistician could show you that all the countries have about the same number of infection/100k population, the variation in numbers after factoring numbers of people tested. Edited July 29, 2020 by Gary M
BillsFanNC Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 22 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I have no idea what an ophthalmologist might know about COVID-19, but ... there are diseases an ophthalmologist might be able to diagnose before a person might have diagnosed from another types of doctor - diabetes for one. Has anyone read anything about COVID-19 impacting the eyes? (I have not, I am genuinely curious and asking.) My post was in response to an earlier one by one of our trolls under their new name of the week, who quoted an article saying that two of the doctors from the Frontline doc group were ophthalmologists...as if an eye doc has no authority to chime in on covid. My point in posting the article was that the Wuhan doctor who first noticed covid cases and blew the whistle on the CCP was in fact an ophthalmologist himself. 2
BillStime Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gary M said: Not sure where you get this November thing, the WHO didn't announce that Kung Flu could be transmitted human to human until January. So you are claiming that Trump knew more than the WHO? Virus going to virus, no grandstanding by a politician is going to stop it, all we could do was slow it down. And I am certain a good station could show you that all the countries have about the same number of infection/100k population, the variation in numbers after factoring numbers of people tested. You don’t think the most POWERFUL country in the world didn’t have this intelligence? Trump knew about this way before he acted.
Big Blitz Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, BillStime said: Who are the governors of those states? Who opened too soon, too fast and too irresponsibly and are currently experiencing the consequences of those actions? When you look at a State like Florida's daily new cases count, what exactly was telling you they reopened too soon? That the outbreak happened when they did? That's called nature/science. From March 20 to June 1, they were averaging about as many new cases a day as the State of New York was averaging deaths for the month of April. So if that metric requires lockdowns, then why is NY reopening? Those current new case numbers in NY are the numbers Florida had for the first 2 months of this. How do you tell your voters after TWO PLUS MONTHS OF NOTHING "yea we need to not reopen." This is just so stupid. 1
fansince88 Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Tiberius said: HA HA HA! Who cares if she has sex with space aliens! She said something Trump thought he could get the little people to believe, to kill more people. I would love to see the evidential findings that this killed people that were going to live without it. Ha Ha Ha
Gary M Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, BillStime said: You don’t think the most POWERFUL country in the world didn’t have this intelligence? Trump knew about this way before he acted. No China and WHO were hiding it !!!!!
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Tiberius said: HA HA HA! Who cares if she has sex with space aliens! She said something Trump thought he could get the little people to believe, to kill more people. ....just curious....what number were you?.............. 2
Big Blitz Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gary M said: Not sure where you get this November thing, the WHO didn't announce that Kung Flu could be transmitted human to human until January. So you are claiming that Trump knew more than the WHO? Virus going to virus, no grandstanding by a politician is going to stop it, all we could do was slow it down. And I am certain a good statistician could show you that all the countries have about the same number of infection/100k population, the variation in numbers after factoring numbers of people tested. I don't get this either. The whole "he knew in November" thing. If that's the case, something absolutely happened at the World Military Games in Wuhan. It's amazing how little attention that gets. Those events were in Wuhan in October. I'm sure nothing happened.
shoshin Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: There is a ton of that... Federal workers in DC apparently are impervious to COVID-19, but everyone else can catch or spread it, so those people should wear a mask. People who sing in church can catch or spread COVID-19, but screaming "***** You!" at police while rioting and looting? The looters and rioters are immune. People can be squished on a plane and be fine, but do not fill an open air stadium with sports fans. Those scuzzy sports fans will catch or spread it. Daycare centers can remain open, Ys can take care of children, but going to school? Everyone is gonna diiiiiiiiiiiiiiie. Cuomo can go to Georgia and not have to self-quarantine on return because he is an "essential employee" and apparently COVID-19 doesn't infect "essential employees." (and on and on and on) But yeah, sure, a black, female doctor from Africa who has reported her in-field findings with a 50¢ per dosage medicine is the crazy one. Note: I have no idea if that doctor is certifiable or not. But shesh people, if you do not want to listen to her in-field findings, how about the other doctors who reported the same type of findings at the same time? You gonna go sorting through their beliefs too to see if they align with yours, and then, maybe, possibly, listen to their findings? Or nawwww? The HCQ discussion is ongoing. So far here, I only see people talking about how our president should not be quoting doctors who think that demon-seed causes disease as a credible source in the middle of a pandemic. Is that really too much to ask? Are your expectations for Trump that low? Edited July 29, 2020 by shoshin
BillStime Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Gary M said: No China and WHO were hiding it !!!!! You're telling me that the Trump administration didn't know about a virus - coming out of a Wuhan lab - that the US has partially funded - and the first death related to this virus was November 17, 2019? Do we live in a bubble? It's laughable when Trumpettes blame the WHO.... We don't need the WHO to advise US intelligence. 1
IDBillzFan Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 1 minute ago, shoshin said: The HCQ discussion is ongoing. So far here, I only see people talking about how our president should not be quoting doctors who think that demon-seed causes disease as a credible source in the middle of a pandemic. Is that really too much to ask? Actually, what you actually see are people talking about how all social media platforms decided to ban that video and anyone who posts it. That should bother you. It clearly doesn't. But it should.
shoshin Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 Just now, IDBillzFan said: Actually, what you actually see are people talking about how all social media platforms decided to ban that video and anyone who posts it. That should bother you. It clearly doesn't. But it should. That discussion isn't actually part of this thread that I've seen--but maybe it's on other parts of this site. I keep raising that our president quoted a tweet that highlighted the demon-seed alien DNA "doctor." If people want to view kooky stuff, have at it. Seems like Twitter is all about finding your echo chamber.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 1 minute ago, IDBillzFan said: Actually, what you actually see are people talking about how all social media platforms decided to ban that video and anyone who posts it. That should bother you. It clearly doesn't. But it should. ...sad how reliance on "social media platforms" is taken as "fact and gospel".......unchecked, unverified and unsubstantiated but the PERFECT fuel to fan the fire......much like the basement babble polluting any constructive dialogue here.......safety from under your desk with your keyboard creates expansive gonads......sad stuff.....remember YEARS AGO when folks needed "press credentials"?.....today it's a roll of Charmin....USED......
BillStime Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Actually, what you actually see are people talking about how all social media platforms decided to ban that video and anyone who posts it. That should bother you. It clearly doesn't. But it should. They did the right thing. Brietbart/Tea Party organized events are not credible; especially from a group just created last week.
Gary M Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: You're telling me that the Trump administration didn't know about a virus - coming out of a Wuhan lab - that the US has partially funded - and the first death related to this virus was November 17, 2019? Do we live in a bubble? It's laughable when Trumpettes blame the WHO.... We don't need the WHO to advise US intelligence. The first reported cases were in December. https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/27-04-2020-who-timeline---covid-19 The November case wasn't identified until later. https://www.livescience.com/first-case-coronavirus-found.html FTA: On Dec. 27, Dr. Zhang Jixian, head of the respiratory department at Hubei Provincial Hospital, reported to health officials in China that a novel coronavirus was causing the disease; by that day, it had infected more than 180 individuals. (Doctors may not have been aware of all of those cases at the time, but only identified those cases after going back over the records, the Morning Post reported.)
BillStime Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gary M said: The first reported cases were in December. https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/27-04-2020-who-timeline---covid-19 The November case wasn't identified until later. https://www.livescience.com/first-case-coronavirus-found.html FTA: On Dec. 27, Dr. Zhang Jixian, head of the respiratory department at Hubei Provincial Hospital, reported to health officials in China that a novel coronavirus was causing the disease; by that day, it had infected more than 180 individuals. (Doctors may not have been aware of all of those cases at the time, but only identified those cases after going back over the records, the Morning Post reported.) The truth will come out.
realtruelove Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...sad how reliance on "social media platforms" is taken as "fact and gospel".......unchecked, unverified and unsubstantiated but the PERFECT fuel to fan the fire......much like the basement babble polluting any constructive dialogue here.......safety from under your desk with your keyboard creates expansive gonads......sad stuff.....remember YEARS AGO when folks needed "press credentials"?.....today it's a roll of Charmin....USED...... MSM is worse than social media platforms when it comes to misinformation and more importantly, censorship. 1
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