B-Man Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 Just now, Penfield45 said: the president literally went on national television and called the virus a hoax, THAT is all you need to read, It is a lie. It's use shows that the poster is NOT to be taken seriously. 4 1
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Penfield45 said: the president literally went on national television and called the virus a hoax, and also said we will be fine by Easter. Trump is doing everything bad to himself. stop acting like this is all a conspiracy against him. He could have been a national hero if he just followed the guidelines, sent out multiple stimulus checks and enforced mask use but he didn't. and this is why his team are in a free fall and will be sent packing in November to a guy who has dementia. Neither of those things occurred as you are portraying them. He called the democrats' politicizing his handling of it their next hoax because impeachment was done. He said he hoped and wanted to be in a place where we could go to church for Easter Sunday. 1
Reality Check Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..which is the Master Plan......the Dems will "rescue" them in exchange for votes...……. Exactly... We are being held hostage... and that is the ransom... Print up trillions before the election and vote the Democrats back in... 1
123719bwiqrb Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: He could have been a national hero if he just followed the guidelines, sent out multiple stimulus checks and enforced mask use but he didn't. Be honest, you're a liar. You would never call him a "national hero". 2
Penfield45 Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 Just now, 123719bwiqrb said: Be honest, you're a liar. You would never call him a "national hero". Your right I wouldn't. but america is full if idiots. that is why Bush was considered a national hero after 9/11 for invading Afghanistan and Iraq and committing war crimes.
B-Man Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 Dr. Nicole Saphier notes how several states have done the ‘scientific equivalent to double-dipping’ thereby ‘grossly inflating’ COVID-19 numbers 1 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, B-Man said: Dr. Nicole Saphier notes how several states have done the ‘scientific equivalent to double-dipping’ thereby ‘grossly inflating’ COVID-19 numbers ...I'm inclined to pause and let Acosta get to the bottom of this........ 2
bilzfancy Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 I've been saying all along, all these numbers are bullcrap. 3 2
GaryPinC Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 9 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: Yes, my god, do you even read the articles or just the headlines? here is the gist of it, again straight for the article. ario Martinez, assistant director of the local health department, said the trucks are necessary due to a surge in deaths and funerals being postponed in accordance with social distancing guidelines, now, I wonder how many places outside of Texas would need to have these trucks if they stopped having funerals! Do yourself a favor moving forward and actually read the article not just the headline or result you want to believe If you actually read the entire article you are completely guilty of that which you rail against. Here's the very next line from Dr. Martinez which you omitted: “This is a morbid topic and it’s not one we enjoy talking about, but it really does underscore the severity of COVID-19 in our community,” Martinez told the outlet. "Neighboring Hidalgo County also said it will share a FEMA trailer with Cameron County, KRGV reported. The truck, which can hold an estimated 50 bodies, arrived several weeks ago, according to Hidalgo County officials, but has been sitting unused. Hidalgo County officials said Cameron County’s morgue is filling more quickly. “I’m going to let them take this one, because they are in dire need,” Hidalgo County emergency management coordinator Ricardo Saldaña, told KRGV. Cameron County has 79 coronavirus-related deaths, according to Johns Hopkins data. Hidalgo County has 183." This entire article discusses different counties in Texas with large surges in Covid deaths and problems with morgue capacity and any health officials quoted chalk up the truck need due to the Covid death surge. Certainly postponement of funerals is a factor but is very far from the "gist" of the article.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: I've been saying all along, all these numbers are bullcrap. ...you and your bride are Floridians and we are about the same age, namely an older bracket that is allegedly more susceptible to significant issues if we contract Covid-19.....what is your assessment as a Florida resident and how has the purported case explosions altered your way of life?.....are you inclined to temporarily leave the state for refuge elsewhere where you would feel safer?......give us a "boots on the ground" perspective bud..... 1
bilzfancy Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...you and your bride are Floridians and we are about the same age, namely an older bracket that is allegedly more susceptible to significant issues if we contract Covid-19.....what is your assessment as a Florida resident and how has the purported case explosions altered your way of life?.....are you inclined to temporarily leave the state for refuge elsewhere where you would feel safer?......give us a "boots on the ground" perspective bud..... We live in a 55 and over community, and haven't changed the way we live at all. I still play golf a few times a week, we go to the pool, out to eat, bike ride etc. The hospitals here are doing fine, but some of the labs around the state have been reporting many false positives, so may are getting retested. Also the is no reporting on if someone died with the virus, or because of the virus. Most of the deaths here are people over 75 and if you check deaths year by year, including 2020 to date, you won't see much difference. I'm not saying not to take this seriously but I do think it's being way overblown and being an election year makes it so, in my opinion. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, bilzfancy said: We live in a 55 and over community, and haven't changed the way we live at all. I still play golf a few times a week, we go to the pool, out to eat, bike ride etc. The hospitals here are doing fine, but some of the labs around the state have been reporting many false positives, so may are getting retested. Also the is no reporting on if someone died with the virus, or because of the virus. Most of the deaths here are people over 75 and if you check deaths year by year, including 2020 to date, you won't see much difference. I'm not saying not to take this seriously but I do think it's being way overblown and being an election year makes it so, in my opinion. ...CERTAINLY appreciate your time for a "Florida boots on the ground " assessment.....BIG thanks....as you know I'm 67 but work every day, having to run a NYS essential business in construction with 200+ employees...I/we as well as my kids and daughter-in-law take every mandated as well as recommended precaution that Big Fredo dishes out....so far, not ONE Covid-19 case among my employees.....3 recommended quarantines due to exposures and that's it.....we just stay the course and ignore the MSM hysteria reporting, politically enriched..... here's an ultra paranoia case involving one of my employees (HIS prerogative)......age 35 and paranoid because "people my age are having strokes from Covid-19(um ok)"......he is in Admin and my offices are 12,000 sq. ft for 30 employees or 400 sq. ft per.....cubicles are 10x12 or 120 sq ft.....we are social distancing with sanitation stations throughout(I paid 5 grand to have offices sanitized for employee peace of mind despite NO cases) and mask requirements in public areas.....he drives to work alone wearing a mask.....he is in his cubicle 8 hours a day wearing a mask.....he leaves his cubicle daily at 10AM, noon, and 2PM for smoke breaks and lunch, opening doors with his elbow or knee......he wears his mask outside for smoke breaks and is at least 10' away from fellow smokers..... his girlfriend has been working remotely since the Covid-19 onset and had not gone outside until two weeks ago when her parents came into town for a visit....NOT EVEN OUTSIDE......he refused to go see them because he couldn't "take their word as to where they had been".....is this SANE?...I can't make this stuff up..... 1 2
bilzfancy Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, wppete said: My point exactly, I don't believe in the numbers
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: My point exactly, I don't believe in the numbers ...pretty sure the CDC revised their numbers to say 40% of Covid-19 reported cases are symptomatic......NO political capital in accurate reporting or case breakdown....remember YEARS ago when there were Press Credentials?.....today's reporting credentials are a roll of Charmin' and the TDS clowns on PPP run with it as gospel.....middle schools closed do have ramifications.....moms are NOT watching either.......... Edited July 17, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy 2
TH3 Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 I see the Trump info and spin machine is working quite well
Big Blitz Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 Another 1100 + "cases!" in NYS today. And over 1000 in VA. Karens going to be hysterically flooding the Governor's mansion with calls. Both states are going to be grounded soon. Enjoy your last weekend of freed.....check that, pre-Socialist Utopia for a few weeks. Or 15 days. Or forever I don't know what we're doing anymore. *Karen enters the chat* "Trump voters aren't wearing the masks! Just wear the dam masks!!!"
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 35 minutes ago, wppete said: ...pretty sure the stimulus package provided hospital funding through the Medicare mechanism whereby the hospital reimbursement was $13,000 for non-Covid 19 yet $39,000 for Covid-19 related....thus there were "financial incentives (COUGH)" to label everything COVID...... 1 1
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