OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I have a friend who works in ER. She dreads every flu season. If we’re not required to wear masks and social distance ever flu season this whole COVID thing has been a media fueled kabuki dance. ...care to assess the nation's reaction to Covid-19 in a NON-election year without a polarizing, obnoxious, cantankerous, "turning the good 'ol boyz protected political network "on its ugly head", corruption exposing swamp draining mofo at 1600 Pennsylvania?..........
Chef Jim Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 1 minute ago, snafu said: If we are still in masks and distancing when flu season 2020 comes around, I wonder whether it will be a lighter load. I’d say yes, probably. I would say most definitely.
123719bwiqrb Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, snafu said: If we are still in masks and distancing when flu season 2020 comes around, I wonder whether it will be a lighter load. I’d say yes, probably. Hence masks to infinity. Another sigh.
Big Blitz Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) Yup. All these "numbers" are a joke and meaningless. We're going to be distanced till a vaccine or cure. And its absolutely unacceptable. They're hoping we do this horse **&& political fighting thru the election and we get used to the "new normal" they were planning as far back as February. They sure had those PSAs locked and loaded ready to go as soon as we locked down: Edited July 12, 2020 by Big Blitz 5 1
Penfield45 Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Brace Yourself: In 2018 the Flu Put More of a Strain on U.S. Hospitals Than COVID-19 Has (Fauci Still at Large) . this is possibly the dumbest and worst written article I have ever read regarding Covid. Its July and the fact people are still comparing this virus to the flu shows how ***** dumb Americans are 1
Big Blitz Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 I go to the Worldometers site (conveniently set up to guarantee panic) and I don't even look at the cases anymore. I couldn't possibly care less about "cases." Tell me if we have patients in critical care and deaths. That's it. But those alone won't create the hysteria. You need perspective you see. Look at all those "cases!!" 2 2
B-Man Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Penfield45 said: this is possibly the dumbest and worst written article I have ever read regarding Covid. Its July and the fact people are still comparing this virus to the flu shows how ***** dumb Americans are If you HAD read it. You wouldn't have written your second sentence. Although that may not be fair..................you probably just couldn't understand it. 1
Penfield45 Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 1 minute ago, B-Man said: If you HAD read it. You wouldn't have written your second sentence. Although that may not be fair..................you probably just couldn't understand it. I did read it. its a bull#### article written on an alt right website trying to brainwash people into thinking the flu is worse than this virus. just like right wingers have been trying to claim since March. there is nothing to understand
snafu Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 32 minutes ago, B-Man said: If you HAD read it. You wouldn't have written your second sentence. Although that may not be fair..................you probably just couldn't understand it. Hey, someone should tells BillStime that people read your schittt. ? 1 1
Magox Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Yup. All these "numbers" are a joke and meaningless. We're going to be distanced till a vaccine or cure. And its absolutely unacceptable. They're hoping we do this horse **&& political fighting thru the election and we get used to the "new normal" they were planning as far back as February. They sure had those PSAs locked and loaded ready to go as soon as we locked down: Im pretty much in agreement with this. Mitigation efforts should have only one goal in mind and that is to allow the hospital/medical systems enough slack to treat patients. Every single place that was hit hard wore masks and shut down businesses for at least a month before the virus burnout. Meaning once it was out there was no getting the genie in the bottle. Once prevalency is out of control which it has been for over 4 months there is no plausible way to control it, unless you quarantined states and cities from each other and that is to dystopian to even imagine for this country. Practical mitigation efforts, protecting the most vulnerable, better medical practices/treatments and ultimately burnout is the only realistic way for this country until a vaccine comes about. 2 2
B-Man Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 38 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: I did read it. its a bull#### article written on an alt right website trying to brainwash people into thinking the flu is worse than this virus. just like right wingers have been trying to claim since March. there is nothing to understand That is NOT what the article is saying You understand nothing. To those who don't wish to read it, it obviously is NOT saying the flu is worse than covid. It is talking about responses of the medical field and hospital strain.
Chef Jim Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, B-Man said: That is NOT what the article is saying You understand nothing. To those who don't wish to read it, it obviously is NOT saying the flu is worse than covid. It is talking about responses of the medical field and hospital strain. Hospital were way below capacity during much of this. During flu season they are often swamped.
shoshin Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: I go to the Worldometers site (conveniently set up to guarantee panic) and I don't even look at the cases anymore. I couldn't possibly care less about "cases." Cases accurately forecast where the deaths are coming and in rough magnitudes but yes, noting is as important as hospitalizations and deaths in terms of measuring. There were people here 3 weeks ago downplaying the case rise in Florida. Cases mean something.
3rdnlng Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 Remember people, the testing done a couple months ago was much different. We were generally only testing people with symptoms so the infection rate was much higher. We are now testing 10-20 times more people a day, most without symptoms and of course the infection rate will be much, much lower but there will be many more infections. Understanding that our goal back in March was to flatten the curve so that our medical facilities were not overloaded. We have basically reached that goal and if we don't fall prey to pussys wanting to change the goal we will be ok. Wear a mask where appropriate, keep your distance from others and stay away from high risk people altogether. It should go without saying that the elderly and infirm should take extra precautions. 1 1
Unforgiven Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Big Blitz said: I go to the Worldometers site (conveniently set up to guarantee panic) and I don't even look at the cases anymore. I couldn't possibly care less about "cases." Tell me if we have patients in critical care and deaths. That's it. But those alone won't create the hysteria. You need perspective you see. Look at all those "cases!!" Love how they so smoothly went from fear mongering about "deaths" to "cases" hoping the sheeple wouldn't notice. And ALL the media is complicit in this. Trump is right about the media being public enemy number 1 1 1
Magox Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 This pertains to the T cell defenses that are formed from previous coronaviruses that we were discussing earlier. And this touches on that and discusses the burnout level. They theorize between 10-20% which is pretty close to my estimations. I’m more in the 15-20% area of COVID-19 infections before burnout takes place. I wish the media and politicians could be grown ups about this and properly explain what we have been saying for months, but unfortunately we are where we are, which is panic porn. 1 3
jburt2625 Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 I'm really not sure what the morons in this country look at..... This virus is real and is killing people. What is so hard to understand about all of this. Are people really that ignorant??? #IHatepeople
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