njbuff Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: That's more than triple in four days. WTF is going on?
meazza Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, njbuff said: That's more than triple in four days. WTF is going on? It spreads exponentially. Not surprising especially in a city as dense as New York City.
Jon in Pasadena Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/03/15/california-calls-for-all-seniors-to-stay-home-closure-of-bars-and-wineries-9421938 Governor Newsome has called for closure of establishments serving alcohol, and curtailment of restaurants, as well as home quarantine of the elderly. Currently still on voluntary basis but situation is evolving rapidly. Edited March 15, 2020 by Jon in Pasadena
njbuff Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 Just now, meazza said: It spreads exponentially. Not surprising especially in a city as dense as New York City. It seems to me that if we went about our business like we normally do it wouldn't have spread this fast. The panic is the disease and not the disease itself. 1 1
row_33 Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 1 minute ago, njbuff said: It seems to me that if we went about our business like we normally do it wouldn't have spread this fast. The panic is the disease and not the disease itself. nobody knows chill for awhile, do what they suggest and 1
meazza Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 1 minute ago, njbuff said: It seems to me that if we went about our business like we normally do it wouldn't have spread this fast. The panic is the disease and not the disease itself. That’s what happened in Italy and the hospitals are overflowing with patients.
njbuff Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: nobody knows chill for awhile, do what they suggest and China wanted worldwide discourse and they certainly got it.
3rdnlng Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, njbuff said: It seems to me that if we went about our business like we normally do it wouldn't have spread this fast. The panic is the disease and not the disease itself. There is no question that the disease is serious and needs to be treated that way. It may not strike you as something to personally worry about but a person can have the disease without any symptoms and then spread it to others who may have underlying problems. You could be the cause of other people dying even without your own knowledge. At least with the flu one knows they have something wrong if they have contracted it. 6 minutes ago, njbuff said: China wanted worldwide discourse and they certainly got it. China, by keeping it quiet is and will be responsible for 1000's of deaths around the world. They have a no fvcks given attitude as it pertains to other countries.
IDBillzFan Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Saw a similar video to this couple days was like wow to it. I saw a similar video about 10 years ago. It was called a Dawn dish detergent commercial. 1 2
row_33 Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, njbuff said: China wanted worldwide discourse and they certainly got it. That’s no chill stuff there.
TPS Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, njbuff said: That's more than triple in four days. WTF is going on? Testing has been very limited, so now that it's ramping up, we'll see the number of cases accelerate. There may be some 30,000 cases (+\- 10,000) out there right now that haven't been identified because of the slow ramp up in testing.. there is good reason to take extreme measures now. Edited March 15, 2020 by TPS 1
Golden Goat Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 1 hour ago, njbuff said: That's more than triple in four days. WTF is going on? People are being tested now. A week ago there were barely any tests being conducted. In another week, these numbers will be dwarfed.
BillsFanNC Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: I saw a similar video about 10 years ago. It was called a Dawn dish detergent commercial. Yep, detergents molecules have hydrophilic and hydrophobic ends. Basic kitchen chemistry.
KD in CA Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 4 hours ago, B-Man said: The British approach to coronavirus by Tyler Cowen March 14, 2020 at 12:15 am Not sure how aware you are of what’s happening here but the British government is taking a decidedly different approach to most other nations. They are not shutting schools or cancelling large gatherings or recommending self-isolation. They’re taking a longer view and saying if that happens it will be a way off yet. The policy is led by the scientists. It’s a very bold approach, the govt is coming under a lot of pressure to do what other nations are doing, there’s a lot of shouting to DO MORE, but so far they’re ignoring it. It’s kind of fascinating to see it play out. If you have time, today’s press conference is really worth a watch, the chief scientific and health advisers give a pretty detailed explanation of what they’re doing (Johnson introduces and then the scientists start talking at 31.50). They don’t say this explicitly but their bet is that what China and South Korea are doing is not economically or psychologically sustainable and will just lead to another peak. (My friend has drawn a cute visual explanation of the thinking here). In this press conference they also make a pretty persuasive case that cancelling large gatherings is pointless and may be counter-productive. …One more thing – good summary of the arguments the govt scientists made in that press conference, in this Guardian report. eg “closures would have to be at least 13 weeks long to reduce the peak of Covid-19 by 10-15%. Measures such as self-isolation for seven days for those with symptoms … have been modelled and are shown to be much more effective” That is from an Ian Leslie email. I am skeptical about this approach (is it politically sustainable?), but we will know more soon. Here is another good explanation, by another guy named Ian: 3. A UK starting assumption is that a high number of the population will inevitably get infected whatever is done – up to 80%. As you can’t stop it, so it is best to manage it. There are limited health resources so the aim is to manage the flow of the seriously ill to these. 4. The Italian model the aims to stop infection. The UKs wants infection BUT of particular categories of people. The aim of the UK is to have as many lower risk people infected as possible. Immune people cannot infect others; the more there are the lower the risk of infection And here is a polemic critique of the British strategy. Continuing… . Frankly, I'm glad someone is trying a different approach. We have devolved into a world not just comprised of lemmings, but lemmings who will angrily attack anyone who doesn't following the 'approved' course of action. This isn't the last one of these we're going to see, so might be good if we were able to evaluate relative good/bad ideas/outcomes after this episode is over. 4
KD in CA Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: It's odd that the homeless population in LA country has so far not been effected. High risk population, no cases (that I've seen)... Haven't hear much about the homeless in other areas either (WA, OR, Bay Area)... We were discussing this last week and concluded that the dudes living on the streets in the Tenderloin must have incredible immune systems by now so were probably in the low risk group.
JetsFan20 Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 CDC now recommends no gathering of 50+ people for 8 weeks. this is insane 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Jon in Pasadena said: https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/03/15/california-calls-for-all-seniors-to-stay-home-closure-of-bars-and-wineries-9421938 Governor Newsome has called for closure of establishments serving alcohol, and curtailment of restaurants, as well as home quarantine of the elderly. Currently still on voluntary basis but situation is evolving rapidly. ...my son's friend manages a large restaurant locally....they cannot keep the restrooms stocked with toilet paper because people are stealing it......seriously?..........
row_33 Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 39 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said: CDC now recommends no gathering of 50+ people for 8 weeks. this is insane everyone is going to have to be exposed to it 1
fansince88 Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Lets be clear. NY here is NYC for the most part. The people live on top of each other. Of course it would spread like that. https://syracusecom.maps.arcgis.com/apps/Embed/index.html?webmap=c927d20b0e024193af82cd8795429c1c&extent=-79.4269,41.5579,-73.5767,44.198&zoom=true&scale=false&legend=true&disable_scroll=true&theme=light Edited March 16, 2020 by fansince88
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