keepthefaith Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Penfield45 said: Americas obsession with 4th of july is something I will never understand. Wish "patriots" put this much attention and effort into helping fix this country's deep rooted issues What are these deep rooted issues you are referring to?
B-Man Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, keepthefaith said: What are these deep rooted issues you are referring to? C'mon. really ? He's whining about "patriotic 4th of July" in the Covid thread................. Don't.
BillsFanNC Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, snafu said: This seems off. Just about everyone has contracted an illness from a coronavirus in their past. If I get tested and am negative for antibodies, what does that mean? Does that mean I’ve never had a stomach bug or a common cold? Yeah off in two senses. They aren't using serology tests to confirm positive cases, that's PCR only. Secondly, from what I have read about how the serology tests are constructed, they use a recombinant covid antigen tethered to detector particle to bind IgG/IgM in the sample. The recombinant antigen makes the tests covid19 specific so as to not cross react with other non-covid19 coronavirus antibodies that may be present. Most, if not all, of these tests were EUA approved, but even still they would not have been approved without at least some data showing specificity for covid19. 1
dubs Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Penfield45 said: Americas obsession with 4th of july is something I will never understand. Wish "patriots" put this much attention and effort into helping fix this country's deep rooted issues hah. you might relate more to October Revolution Day celebrated in the former Soviet Union to commemorate the Socialist revolution from October 7 - 8. Its kind of like that, only instead of a celebration of authoritarian rule, in the US we celebrate freedom from authoritarian rule.
shoshin Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, B-Man said: AFTER MASSIVE BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS ACROSS AMERICA, U.S. logs 26th straight day of record average case totals. The seven-day average of novel coronavirus cases in the United States set a record for the 26th straight day on Saturday as officials and health experts watched nervously to see whether July 4 gatherings would increase the spread. The new high came even as the holiday kept some state health departments from reporting their latest batches of infections. The virus continued to spiral out of control in much of the country, particularly in the South, as several states experienced record numbers of confirmed infections and hospitalizations. Florida logged another daily high number of new cases, while hospitalizations in Arizona set a record, and ICU capacity at the world’s largest medical center, in Houston, was exceeded at one point. CTRL-F NOT FOUND: “Protest.” So are you acknowledging a hospital problem in the south? And are you talking about those huge BLM protests in Texas, Arizona, Florida? Cases still down in Philadelphia, NYC, DC, even Buffalo, where big marches took place. CTRL-F "think" Edited July 5, 2020 by shoshin
B-Man Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, shoshin said: So are you acknowledging a hospital problem in the south? I am providing information and opinion articles. Like always. 1
Capco Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: The 4th of July is a celebration of our INDEPENDENCE. Patriots celebrate because they love our country. You can't understand that because you obviously do not love our country.
3rdnlng Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, Capco said: Slavery has been going on for thousands of years. Western civilization ended it. The USA had a war over it and 600,000+ people were killed. Take your hate for America and stick it up your ass. 1
B-Man Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 Why Didn't Obama warn us ! Report: COVID-19-Like Strain Originally Found By Chinese…In 2012 https://hotair.com/archives/taylormillard/2020/07/05/report-covid-19-like-strain-originally-found-chinese-2012/ Just kidding about Barack of course......................I'm still using my new liberal logic machine to post............
SoCal Deek Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 3 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Slavery has been going on for thousands of years. Western civilization ended it. The USA had a war over it and 600,000+ people were killed. Take your hate for America and stick it up your ass. Amen! THIS should be on a billboard or painted on a street in Washington DC. 1
Big Blitz Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 If the IFR is .26 then millions already had it in March.
B-Man Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 Back to the thread.......... NPR: “Mounting Evidence” Suggests COVID Not As Deadly as Thought. Did the Experts Fail Again? A new NPR report suggests the global response to COVID-19 may have been reached on a flawed premise. Mounting evidence suggests the coronavirus is more common and less deadly than it first appeared. The evidence comes from tests that detect antibodies to the coronavirus in a person's blood rather than the virus itself. The tests are finding large numbers of people in the US who were infected but never became seriously ill. And when these mild infections are included in coronavirus statistics, the virus appears less dangerous. "The current best estimates for the infection fatality risk are between 0.5% and 1%," says Caitlin Rivers, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. That's in contrast with death rates of 5% or more based on calculations that included only people who got sick enough to be diagnosed with tests that detect the presence of virus in a person's body. Many people will recall the fatality risk debate that took place prior to and in the early stages of the lockdowns. There was much discussion over how deadly the virus was and what the collective response to the virus should be. Some voices exercised caution. “The public is behaving as if this epidemic is the next Spanish flu, which is frankly understandable given that initial reports have staked COVID-19 mortality at about 2–3 percent, quite similar to the 1918 pandemic that killed tens of millions of people,” Jeremy Samuel Faust an emergency medicine physician and an instructor at Harvard Medical School, wrote in Slate. “Allow me to be the bearer of good news. These frightening numbers are unlikely to hold.” 3
Cinga Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 Ruh-Roh.... Looks like the pneumonia/influenza/covid death rate has fallen to what would be considered "normal" according to the CDC. The black double line is what the CDC figures to be a normal rate of deaths from the 3 of pneumonia/influenza/covid. The red line is what we have actually seen. As you can see, the red and black have intersected which means if we stay on this normal curve the epidemic in our country is over. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html 5
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) Sorry this is just odd. Edited July 6, 2020 by Buffalo Bills Fan
Magox Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Big Blitz said: If the IFR is .26 then millions already had it in March. Most likely well over 30 million. 3 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Sorry this is just odd. Where did you get that from? It's most likely pneumonia for both regular pneumonia and COVID related pneumonia. On the CCD website they have both categories.
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