The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[Warren Zevon]

 

[3rdnlng]

22 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

I confess I hadn't heard that. Do you have proof posted after this linked article?

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-no-homicide-death-man-ingested-chloroquine-20200429-3xktpqchlrhgrhfh7rgt5kcjk4-story.html

I sorta discounted your article when I read this from it:

 

In an interview, Wanda Lenius said she and her husband each consumed four times the legal limit as a “kind of a spur-of-the-moment thing.”

 

Now Hydroxochloriquine Phospate has a legal limit for human consumption? 

[Kemp]

15 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said:

 

Unreal Trump the great negotiator was tricked into sending loads of PPE to China.

 

No one ever gets over on Donald in business, ergo you must be wrong. Everyone knows that.

[IDBillzFan]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

I sorta discounted your article when I read this from it:

 

In an interview, Wanda Lenius said she and her husband each consumed four times the legal limit as a “kind of a spur-of-the-moment thing.”

 

Now Hydroxochloriquine Phospate has a legal limit for human consumption? 

 

If you read the article, it literally says all AZ deaths are assigned someone from homicide to investigate, but it's not being investigated as a homicide.

 

Sounds like someone got their ass chewed by their leftwing bosses.

[3rdnlng]

16 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said:

 

Unreal Trump the great negotiator was tricked into sending loads of PPE to China.

Yes, he was tricked. Not a good thing for China to do, especially when their future economy is not only in the world's hands but a pissed off Trump is ready to lead the firing squad. 

[Kemp]

1 minute ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

If you read the article, it literally says all AZ deaths are assigned someone from homicide to investigate, but it's not being investigated as a homicide.

 

Sounds like someone got their ass chewed by their leftwing bosses.

 

The Left Wing fixed the case to make Trump look bad?

[3rdnlng]

3 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

If you read the article, it literally says all AZ deaths are assigned someone from homicide to investigate, but it's not being investigated as a homicide.

 

Sounds like someone got their ass chewed by their leftwing bosses.

It's an old article too. 

[Kemp]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

Yes, he was tricked. Not a good thing for China to do, especially when their future economy is not only in the world's hands but a pissed off Trump is ready to lead the firing squad. 

 

There will be no firing squad and eventually Trump will tell us how great China and its leader is. He always goes back and forth on China, like he does on the people he hires and fires.

[IDBillzFan]

2 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

The Left Wing fixed the case to make Trump look bad?

 

The left ran full-goose bozo with the story of two vocal Dem donors who were so stupid, they literally thought drinking fish tank cleaner would protect them from the Chinese virus. The left THEN ran with the wife's story that they did it because Trump told them to do so.

 

So when the story is about to, again, blow up...just like every other BS story that blows up in their face from the Covington kids to UV rays...someone has to change the story to "Yes, we have a homicide investigator on the case, but it's not a homicide investigation."

 

Do you deny that is what the story is saying, because it's literally saying it. And to quote Joe Biden, by literally, I don't mean figuratively..

[billsfan1959]

33 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

 

The very simple point is that when Trump says someting, he is often either lying or doesn't know if what he is saying is true. That has been proven over and over. This is just another example.

 

That so many of you deny that he lies so much of the time is a tribute to ignoring reality.

 

Your hatred of Trump transcends any ability you might possess to engage in reasonable, rational, fact based discussions. Your ranting about Trump, or anyone else, either lying or not knowing if what he is saying is true is the absolute height of irony.  You toss out half-truths, distorted truths, and outright false statements in post after post. When anyone takes the time to point out the actual facts to prove you wrong, you either double down on your ignorance, shift the goal posts, or completely ignore it like it didn't even happen.

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, billsfan1959 said:

 

Your hatred of Trump transcends any ability you might possess to engage in reasonable, rational, fact based discussions. Your ranting about Trump, or anyone else, either lying or not knowing if what he is saying is true is the absolute height of irony.  You toss out half-truths, distorted truths, and outright false statements in post after post. When anyone takes the time to point out the actual facts to prove you wrong, you either double down on your ignorance, shift the goal posts, or completely ignore it like it didn't even happen.

 

Because Kemp isn't an honest person. 

 

He's a broken person -- who has been wrong about every major story the past four years (and before that, his record was equally unimpressive). When confronted with facts that counter his uninformed opinion, his response is to attack then run away. 

 

Because he's a coward on top of being dishonest. 

[3rdnlng]

5 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

There will be no firing squad and eventually Trump will tell us how great China and its leader is. He always goes back and forth on China, like he does on the people he hires and fires.

TDS, pure and simple. Trump could cure cancer and you would find some way to fault him for doing so. 

[Warren Zevon]

Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

blah blabbity blah blah blah

 

Indeed

[KRC]

4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

TDS, pure and simple. Trump could cure cancer and you would find some way to fault him for doing so. 

 

All of those researchers out of work. Damn Trump!!!

Edited May 6, 2020 by KRC

[BuffaloHokie13]

5 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

TDS, pure and simple. Trump could cure cancer and you would find some way to fault him for doing so. 

BREAKING: Trump pushes thousands from the medical industry into unemployment.

[billsfan1959]

13 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

TDS, pure and simple. Trump could cure cancer and you would find some way to fault him for doing so. 

 

Trump's focus on cancer shows he doesn't care about those dying from heart disease, diabetes, and Alzheimer’s disease...

[shoshin]

This is a good piece talking about some of the overoptimism on vaccines.  

Quote

 

Marie-Paule Kieny, who formerly led the WHO group responsible for spurring development of epidemic and pandemic vaccines and drugs, said when the global health agency worked on pandemic planning in the lead-up to the 2009 H1N1 influenza pandemic, it was proposed that health care workers around the world have first access to vaccine. That group, she said, is estimated to be about 2% of the global population — roughly 156 million people.

 

“I think it’s reasonable to say that this should be the first target, because as we’ve seen everywhere, including in the U.S., when you have a health system which cannot accommodate sick people, then everybody suffers,” said Kieny, who is now research director at Inserm, the French equivalent of the National Institutes of Health.

 

Health care workers would likely followed by people at the highest risk — those 65 and older and people with chronic health conditions, like diabetes, that have been seen to increase the risk of dying from Covid-19, Robinson said.

 

“I don’t think that the general population will have vaccine probably until the second half of 2021. And that’s if everything works OK,” he said.

 

 

The priorities above make sense. Healthcare, then older...probably after that come certain frontline job-holders and after that, the rest (minus the anti-vaxxers who we can only hope are so small in number that we can avoid them making a mess of things). 

 

I worked for a few years for Merck building some of their vaccine production facilities and also some other drug producing buildings. The amount of time it took to build those--for much smaller volumes--was staggering. Just building the facilities took 2-3 years on a CRUSHINGLY FAST timeline. I am incredibly impressed with the way Gates and others are considering the vaccine incubators to try to get the C-19 drugs out faster. It's very smart and hugely risky. A lot of waste may occur if trials take long or changes are necessary before production can start. 

Edited May 6, 2020 by shoshin

[Hedge]

32 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Sorry @Hedge. Missed your post about this earlier.

 

It's easy to do when skipping through pages of garbage spewing dimwits. 

[Tiberius]

report that Jared Kushner may not be the organizational genius we’ve been led to believe:

The coronavirus response being spearheaded by President Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, has relied in part on volunteers from consulting and private equity firms with little expertise in the tasks to which they were assigned, exacerbating chronic problems in obtaining supplies for hospitals and other needs, according to numerous government officials and a volunteer involved in the effort.

About two dozen employees from Boston Consulting Group, Insight, McKinsey and other firms have volunteered their time — some on paid vacation leave from their jobs and others without pay — to aid the Trump administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, according to administration officials and others familiar with the arrangement.

Although some of the volunteers have relevant backgrounds and experience, many others were poorly matched with the jobs they were assigned, including those given the task of securing personal protective equipment, or PPE, for hospitals nationwide, according to a complaint filed last month with the House Oversight Committee.

[Hedge]

A thread by Rand Paul:

 

 

which concludes with: