Warren Zevon Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, Reality Check said: Yuri Bezmenov might think I'm playing for your team trying to guarantee a Trump win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Reality Check said: You misspelled your false messiah Fauci. So, you have more knowledge than him on this topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, Kemp said: I know I'm impressed with your debating skills. Why would someone ask questions when one knows the answers are always the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I won’t debate your definition of a ‘pandemic’ but yes the STORY is over. Everyone is going back to their lives. (Except you maybe.) Nanker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, plenzmd1 said: sucks, just went through 3 pages in less than a minute. This used to be a thread one could learn from, no longer Yeah, that happens a lot down here. And, it does suck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: Yeah, that happens a lot down here. And, it does suck. Partly my fault for feeding the trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: I don’t believe that’s what he said. I believe he said we’ll be much better positioned for it if and when it happens. Seems pretty reasonable to me. That might have been what he meant. Even so, I disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 37 minutes ago, Kemp said: Wow! Either you didn't read it or you're simpler than I thought. Is the following an editorial or statement of fact? When: Multiple timesThe claim: The Trump White House “inherited” a “broken,” “bad,” and “obsolete” test for the coronavirus.The truth: The novel coronavirus did not exist in humans during the Obama administration. Public-health experts agree that, because of that fact, the CDC could not have produced a test, and thus a new test had to be developed this year. I admit, I didn't click the link so maybe there is context I don't have, but I have multiple issues with the portion you copied alone. 1. The claim is generically stated as being said multiple times rather than a specific time and source. This is probably because nobody made this particular claim. Lots of people made 2 different but similar claims, which takes me to number 2. If you can find someone who specifically said that the Trump admin inherited bad tests from the previous administration, I'd love to see it. 2. The claim seems to be the combination of parts of two different claims. One of those claims is that the Trump WH inherited the depleted PPE stock, which was blamed on Obama as the 'truth' implies. There was ample time to resupply prior to 2016. There were also 3 years for Trump to resupply. The second claim is that the tests put forth by the WHO were bad. I believe the tests were developed in Germany, but the ones we would have received were going to be manufactured in China. Trump decided to try to do the tests here instead of taking them from the WHO, and they failed due to a bad blank IIRC. If he were to direct blame for this, it would likely be towards China as he didn't trust them, and to a lesser extent the WHO. 3. The 'truth' section is certainly factually accurate. But it has no relation to reality or any actual claims as far as I can tell. When he has blamed Obama it has been for things that actually happened. Now Trump may have a share of the blame in those things, like the PPE scenario, but they happened. He has been blaming China for lots of things for at least a decade. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Warren Zevon said: Yuri Bezmenov might think I'm playing for your team trying to guarantee a Trump win You didn't watch the video did you. Do you wear a blind fold too?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Partly my fault for feeding the trolls. Your fault for being clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 9 hours ago, B-Man said: He has to set up a "sting" first.... ........... I'll let myself out.............. That's the buzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: sucks, just went through 3 pages in less than a minute. This used to be a thread one could learn from, no longer Here’s something to learn: yesterday was the first day that only NY state reported triple digit deaths. All other 49 states were well under 100 with quite a few recording none at all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Why would someone ask questions when one knows the answers are always the same? I would hope that some can learn, but... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, Reality Check said: Why are you such a promoter of America's destruction? Am I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, Reality Check said: Read "Schuman's" book after watching that video years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, Reality Check said: Why are you such a promoter of America's destruction? Am I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Here’s something to learn: yesterday was the first day that only NY state reported triple digit deaths. All other 49 states were well under 100 with quite a few recording none at all. Great news - unfortunately it was Monday numbers and there are a handful of states whose numbers are still climbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kemp said: So, you have more knowledge than him on this topic? I have knowledge on his patents and international business dealings. You obviously don't. Plus, you are not even considering that he might be lying to you. Look up GP 120 yourself. You may not like the big words, but just take your time with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Kemp said: That might have been what he meant. Even so, I disagree Kemp...honest question: Did you even watch his interview at the Lincoln Memorial or are you just parroting what others have told you he said? The guy is not the monster you’ve been told to think he is. 1 minute ago, Warren Zevon said: Great news - unfortunately it was Monday numbers and there are a handful of states whose numbers are still climbing. Come on Warren. You can keep trying to resuscitate this sucker, but it’s over! Thank goodness. It could’ve been a lot worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I actually understand a bit about research and data, and the weight of data, and the generalization of data, etc. I have looked at enough data for me to feel comfortable in my stance. I stand by that. I made my statement based on what I have read. I think my initial wording was incorrect as I didn't mean to imply that the weight of the data supported my stance, only that much of the emerging data I have read - meaning most of the data I have read, not data that exists. If you want to say you disagree based on what you have read, fine. However, your response was to say, "The weight of the data is obvious." The fact is, you haven't read all of the data, so you have no idea what the weight of the data supports and all you are doing is the very thing you accused me of. so... he's on the pot/kettle list then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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