delirious Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Hypothetically it sounds like a great idea but generally the best players don't make good coaches There are a laundry list of reasons why but Luke being a great player doenst guarentee he will be a great coach That's where Bob Babich would come in my opinion. Let Babich do the brunt of the coaching while letting Kuechly learn the ropes - while also giving Tremaine and Milano (Dodson?) some pointers. Could see a situation similar to how Kyle was giving Ed Oliver pointers - except Kuechly would be an assistant coach. 1 1
Buffalo716 Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 @Sherlock Holmes Idk wats so confusing, it's been widely held for a long time that the best players don't make great coaches.. it's not a guarantee Players like Frank Reich who were career backups and saw the game from a different lens make great coaches historically Not guys like Jim Kelly and Michael Jordan or Luke Kuechly 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: Saw that Kuechly doesn’t want to completely leave football behind and he’s specifically interested in coaching. I’m going to do everyone’s favorite thing and make the McDermott - Carolina connection. Bob Babich is a great coach but bringing Kuechly in as an assistant could help Tremaine take another huge leap this year. This would be really cool to see. EDIT: https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/01/luke-kuechly-eyeing-coachingconsulting-gig INteresting 39 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Hypothetically it sounds like a great idea but generally the best players don't make good coaches There are a laundry list of reasons why but Luke being a great player doenst guarentee he will be a great coach Depends somewhat on his makeup as a player, for sure. Is he one of those guys who just does, and can't tell you what and why? Was he a brilliant film watcher? I would think McDermott would be in a great position to know those things. 1
Buffalo716 Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: INteresting Depends somewhat on his makeup as a player, for sure. Is he one of those guys who just does, and can't tell you what and why? Was he a brilliant film watcher? I would think McDermott would be in a great position to know those things. While those are all true it's also more complicated than that His football IQ and intangibles can be off the charts but when the play takes off his instincts kick in and he just does Most of the greats we're great because of something special inside of them .. something you can't measure or teach Most of the stuff Luke did 99% of the world can't do .. he was just insanely blessed to be able to do it 1
Nanker Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Don Otreply said: So, on a scale of 1-10, ten being the most likely, how likely is Buffalo his landing spot? 2
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: While those are all true it's also more complicated than that His football IQ and intangibles can be off the charts but when the play takes off his instincts kick in and he just does Most of the greats we're great because of something special inside of them .. something you can't measure or teach Most of the stuff Luke did 99% of the world can't do .. he was just insanely blessed to be able to do it I guess what I was getting at is, he may not be able to teach what he does physically and how he reacts, but he may still be able to coach what he sees on film from opponents, what he's keying on. The example in my mind is Bruce Smith. No how no way could Bruce have coached someone physically. Darryl Talley said it, he tried to copy some of Bruce's moves and gave it up quickly concluding they were not realistic for normal human beings. But Bruce was a brilliant and obsessive film watcher. He could tell another player what he was looking for and picking up on film to give him an edge. That kind of thing. 3 1
Buffalo716 Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I guess what I was getting at is, he may not be able to teach what he does physically and how he reacts, but he may still be able to coach what he sees on film from opponents, what he's keying on. The example in my mind is Bruce Smith. No how no way could Bruce have coached someone physically. Darryl Talley said it, he tried to copy some of Bruce's moves and gave it up quickly concluding they were not realistic for normal human beings. But Bruce was a brilliant and obsessive film watcher. He could tell another player what he was looking for and picking up on film to give him an edge. That kind of thing. Of course that kind of thing he can pick up on... But so could the majority of all NFL coaches I think Luke was a tremendous player physically and instinctually But you really can't give your instincts to other players unfortunately all you can do is try and help I don't doubt that Luke would be good in the film room tho 1
Buffalo716 Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 @Hapless Bills Fan The Talley story trying to copy Smith's moves are funny and makes lots of sense Bruce could do things no other human could, he was physically Superior. In high school I thought I could emulate Walter Payton scissor kick... Turns out Walter Payton I am not 1
JGMcD2 Posted January 18, 2020 Author Posted January 18, 2020 https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2020/01/nfl-rumors-luke-kuechly-mulling-coachingconsulting-role-could-buffalo-bills-be-match-for-former-lb.html Buffalo media catching on. Man, I swear they read my posts and then write articles! ? 2 1
BADOLBILZ Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 Bring in a MLB who retired very early to advise our young MLB to retire early??
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Bring in a MLB who retired very early to advise our young MLB to retire early?? A point that perhaps that is not the example we want our best players to follow, to retire in only 8 years at the age of 28.
Talley56 Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 If it doesn’t work out with him the Bills should check with Gilmore to see if he wants to coach.
YoloinOhio Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: INteresting Depends somewhat on his makeup as a player, for sure. Is he one of those guys who just does, and can't tell you what and why? Was he a brilliant film watcher? I would think McDermott would be in a great position to know those things. He’s a brilliant film watcher. He didn’t get cable for like his first 4 years in the league because he didnt want to be distracted from film. And wasn’t really the most physically gifted kid coming out of HS in Cincy. Ohio state said no thanks - ran too slow At one of their camps (soooo stupid. Went for a 5 star kid From California over him who was meh) and was super smart so went to BC. As i recall he had offers from Duke, Stanford, hometown UC which isn’t even power 5. I think Sparty too who gets leftovers. Luke was a 3 star prospect i believe... wasn’t even one of the top 30 prospects in Ohio coming out of HS. Anyway... my point is he wasn’t highly recruited by the big programs; he worked for everything he achieved, he wasn’t born HOF like some guys. Edited January 19, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 2
GoBills! Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 I think our D would be a good fit, he could move up to D coordinator then a coaching gig within 3 years. Easy to get a head coaching gig when you have one of the best D's in the league.
LABILLBACKER Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 If I'm Sean I'm calling him Immediately. I don't care about him trying to teach his physical instincts to players. But his knowledge of LB traits would be invaluable to the Bill's young LB group.
Sherlock Holmes Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: @Sherlock Holmes Idk wats so confusing, it's been widely held for a long time that the best players don't make great coaches.. it's not a guarantee Players like Frank Reich who were career backups and saw the game from a different lens make great coaches historically Not guys like Jim Kelly and Michael Jordan or Luke Kuechly You don't have any idea how good of a coach Kuechly will be... I do know this, I want his first coaching gig to be for the Bills 1
Buffalo716 Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: You don't have any idea how good of a coach Kuechly will be... I do know this, I want his first coaching gig to be for the Bills Become a Panthers fan then by the looks of it ? 1
Sherlock Holmes Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Become a Panthers fan then by the looks of it ? L'IN'k please??? Has no ties to that staff
Buffalo716 Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: L'IN'k please??? Has no ties to that staff I'm just messing with ya bro If we sign Luke as a LBr coach of some sort I'd be down for it ? Edited January 19, 2020 by Buffalo716 1
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