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The takes in this thread are fascinating.

 

CTE is a clinical diagnosis right? 

 

People hear CTE and assume it’s a accusation that football is to blame.  That’s not necessarily the only or even key contributor. But it is brain damage.

 

second seems like the real debate that underlies the polar views here is;  Was this kid born a sociopath, or did he become sociopathic through a series of events? 
 

The value in chronicling his story after you strip the sensationalism away, is trying to learn how to detect and prevent this stuff, if at all possible, before it’s too late. 
 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, HeHateMe said:

Meh did you see how Bill denied trading him when he asked to be traded to get away from the area and how the organization was basically complicit and got him a hideaway apartment to lay low in?  And the Toradol abuse, etc. 

haha yes I posted that before watching episodes 2 and 3 of the doc, in all fairness.

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2 hours ago, RiotAct said:

ironic that one of the huge helmet-to-helmet hits on Aaron that they showed was administered by none other than Ray Lewis.

Are you suggesting that he became a murderer through osmosis?

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On 1/15/2020 at 9:19 AM, JerseyBills said:

Even with all the Hernandez specials already done by other companies , I'm 1 episode in and this documentary is absolutely addicting. Covers much much more details and is a must watch imo. 

 

Just go on your Netflix , search Aaron Hernandez to find the documentary ,if it doesn't Pop up on your home screen. Just came out at midnight . 

 

Gotta say , this really made me feel for Hernandez and all parties involved in this tragedy .

 

I can feel for the other parties involved - the families and friends and loved ones of the murdered guys and the ones who were shot.

 

Hernandez had resources and opportunities to change his narrative that few are afforded, and at some point, chose not to.  I think it's sad, but I have no pity or sympathy for him.

 

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2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I didn't pay much attention to Hernandez trial so I was caught off guard with the talk of him being gay. I mean did we really need to know about his sexual life?

In documentaries, you find out about stuff.

 

So yes.

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3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I didn't pay much attention to Hernandez trial so I was caught off guard with the talk of him being gay. I mean did we really need to know about his sexual life?

I guess it was a big part of the story. The prosecution actually wanted to use his sexuality as motive , that Loyd caught him in the act. But was never used in court

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18 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

So I open this thread and a Netflix notification about it just popped up. Creepy. 

My wife is an avid runner, and just ran the Disney half marathon last weekend. The week before we left for Disney, she was telling me that she was pissed off because these special "compression socks" that she had ordered from a particular company hadn't come in yet. People, when they do Disney runs, dress up in a particular theme, and these were a particular color blue, because she was going to do a "Frozen"/"Olaf" theme.

 

Next morning, on MY Facebook page, an ad popped up for this compression socks company, and it was for THE EXACT SAME PAIR OF SOCKS THAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT. Same color, everything. 

 

Alexa is about to get tossed in the street.

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To anyone who is on the fence, I'd recommend watching it.  I've finished episode 1, and so far it's just a very good documentary, a good cautionary tale, and it spoke to me as a father to two young boys.  It doesn't glorify Hernandez or excuse his behavior in any way.  It just paints a picture of the man and his upbringing, and it's left up to you to draw your own conclusions.  It also takes time to honor Odin Lloyd and his family.

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On 1/15/2020 at 10:36 AM, Reed83HOF said:

he is still a pos scumbag

I'm sure he regrets every decision at this moment. 

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Im thoroughly convinced his downward spiral was due to many factors, but the main one being CTE. 

 

He had the worst brain ever documented in a person his age.  Stage 3, and his behavior showed ever single sign of major brain damage. 

 

In that documentary he's heard on the phone saying he has the fairytale life he always wanted and it really did nothing for him.  He probably knew there was something not right with him but never thought it was due to major brain damage. 

 

The whole thing is sad as hell for everyone. 

4 hours ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said:

Did CTE cause the Florida shooting when he was in college?

The brain specialist said the type of damage to his brain was at least 10 years in the making, maybe more. 

 

So it began at minimum, around 17 years old. 

 

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6 hours ago, TwistofFate said:

Im thoroughly convinced his downward spiral was due to many factors, but the main one being CTE. 

 

He had the worst brain ever documented in a person his age.  Stage 3, and his behavior showed ever single sign of major brain damage. 

 

In that documentary he's heard on the phone saying he has the fairytale life he always wanted and it really did nothing for him.  He probably knew there was something not right with him but never thought it was due to major brain damage. 

 

The whole thing is sad as hell for everyone. 

The brain specialist said the type of damage to his brain was at least 10 years in the making, maybe more. 

 

So it began at minimum, around 17 years old. 

 

I watched the series and I do have sympathy for the environment Hernandez grew up in, but it just seems to me that CTE may only have exasperated his violent tendencies that already existed and he may have gone down this road anyways.  I feel although his father's opinion on homosexuality created a extremely difficult home environment for Aaron, if his father had made it a few more years, Aaron would be alive today.

 

Edit: Meant to say Aaron may be alive today.

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On 1/15/2020 at 10:19 AM, JerseyBills said:

Even with all the Hernandez specials already done by other companies , I'm 1 episode in and this documentary is absolutely addicting. Covers much much more details and is a must watch imo. 

 

Just go on your Netflix , search Aaron Hernandez to find the documentary ,if it doesn't Pop up on your home screen. Just came out at midnight . 

 

Does the final episode have a dead end or is it a cliff hanger ?

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2 minutes ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said:

I watched the series and I do have sympathy for the environment Hernandez grew up in, but it just seems to me that CTE may only have exasperated his violent tendencies that already existed and he may have gone down this road anyways.  I feel although his father's opinion on homosexuality created a extremely difficult home environment for Aaron, if his father had made it a few more years, Aaron would be alive today.

 


Yes.  His most violent times were after hitting the NFL, could have been because of CTE.  Not sure that was the contributing factor or he was pre-disposed based on his childhood.
 

Interesting question.  How could the repeal of the abatement law change his conviction after it was overturned?  The law was in affect when his conviction was overturned, shouldn’t be able to change it back once the law left the books.

 

Brought perspective to his life for me.  Can’t say I feel he was innocent, but understand what caused/may have caused what he did.

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12 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Does the final episode have a dead end or is it a cliff hanger ?

Good question. It really leaves you hanging there at the end

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