Blank Stare Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 29 minutes ago, Augie said: Donald Sterling may have been the only owner worse than Haslam, and Sterling was (deservedly) forced to go away. I feel bad for Browns fans, everyone deserves better than this. Is it 7 HC’s since 2012? That’s just incredible. Idk. Haslam is definitely awful, but Danny Snyder holds his own in that department. Couldn’t imagine being a fan of either of those franchises. 1
Augie Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 1 minute ago, TheProcess said: Idk. Haslam is definitely awful, but Danny Snyder holds his own in that department. Couldn’t imagine being a fan of either of those franchises. I look at it this way: 1) Snyder is a bad owner 2) Haslam is a bad owner and a crook 3) Sterling was a bad owner and a racist Sterlings wins....or is that loses? 2
Blank Stare Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 Just now, Augie said: I look at it this way: 1) Snyder is a bad owner 2) Haslam is a bad owner and a crook 3) Sterling was a bad owner and a racist Sterlings wins....or is that loses? Sterling made off with a handsome sum, so at least he’s got that going for him. Even if he’s a disgrace. As for Snyder and Haslam, even in our darkest days while we were going through the drought I always had hope that we’d luck into something like a “Mahomes-type” draft pick to change our fortunes or a worst to first year. It just wasn’t meant to be for all the reasons we know. But funnily enough, I never lost hope year to year. Maybe that’s the feeling they have too which keeps them going.
Mr. WEO Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 4:13 PM, YoloinOhio said: I don’t blame him with the way this is dragging on. I wonder if he decided during his 2nd interview that the clown suit wouldn’t fit Ike should have let GP keep rolling right into Moscow...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 11 hours ago, Augie said: Is it 7 HC’s since 2012? That’s just incredible. Ah, but then again, variety is the spice of life. ?
CorkScrewHill Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: I don’t blame him at all. He is supposed to be one of the most respected AGM’s in the NFL. With Haslam’s track record of soliciting advise from everyone he talks to and abruptly changing his mind on a whim + firing everyone, why would a top candidate go there until Haslam proves he’s willing to stick with a plan for more than 1-2 years? I pretty much expect the Browns to be perpetually starting over again every 2 years until they prove otherwise. I think if you get the right GM it can make up for great ownership...and the search should start right here at TBD as there are soooo many experts who “knew” in advance (retroactively) how great a player such as Mahomes was going to be even though going into the draft he was considered the third best QB by most ranking sites and a risky player. Haslam just needs to comb Thru old posts here and he is bound to find the next Ozzie Newsome with all the 3 year later analysis of how they knew player x who a team drafted in the 4th round and the consensus best linebacker in the draft would be a bust Edited January 26, 2020 by CorkScrewHill
YoloinOhio Posted January 27, 2020 Author Posted January 27, 2020 Berry previously worked under Sashi Brown during the run to 1-31
Big Turk Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Looking like this will be another great story in Cleveland's epic and neverending tale of woe under Haslam's watch.
GunnerBill Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Berry previously worked under Sashi Brown during the run to 1-31 Lord alive.
PIZ Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Good. I was worried that one of the Bills guys was going to Cleveland.
BarleyNY Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Berry previously worked under Sashi Brown during the run to 1-31 Yes, he was VP of player personnel for the Browns. He was there when Kitchens was hired but was a proponent of hiring Stefanski so there’s some level of comfort there. He’s definitely DePodesta’s guy and was his target from the start of the search. Berry is an extremely intelligent guy who played. He was a three year All Ivy CB at Harvard where he got a Bachelors in Economics and a Masters in CIS. He’s a great fit for the analytics driven group there. You never know how that’ll work out, but it seems like there’s a good chance the Browns org will be on the same page. Whether they’ll be successful I couldn’t say. Even if there’s a lot of good people working together there, there is still the Haslams and team history to deal with. Still, Berry is smart guy. 3
YoloinOhio Posted January 27, 2020 Author Posted January 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Yes, he was VP of player personnel for the Browns. He was there when Kitchens was hired but was a proponent of hiring Stefanski so there’s some level of comfort there. He’s definitely DePodesta’s guy and was his target from the start of the search. Berry is an extremely intelligent guy who played. He was a three year All Ivy CB at Harvard where he got a Bachelors in Economics and a Masters in CIS. He’s a great fit for the analytics driven group there. You never know how that’ll work out, but it seems like there’s a good chance the Browns org will be on the same page. Whether they’ll be successful I couldn’t say. Even if there’s a lot of good people working together there, there is still the Haslams and team history to deal with. Still, Berry is smart guy. I like both him and Stefanski. But! They have to give them TIME. These are young guys with a lot of potential and no experience in their new roles. The browns need to be patient. 1 1
BarleyNY Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I like both him and Stefanski. But! They have to give them TIME. These are young guys with a lot of potential and no experience in their new roles. The browns need to be patient. I couldn’t agree more.
MJS Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 50 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I like both him and Stefanski. But! They have to give them TIME. These are young guys with a lot of potential and no experience in their new roles. The browns need to be patient. If the Browns need to be patient, they'll be the opposite of that. They like to do the opposite of the right thing. 1
Augie Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I like both him and Stefanski. But! They have to give them TIME. These are young guys with a lot of potential and no experience in their new roles. The browns need to be patient. They never seem to know when and where to exercise patience. I think they spent it all on Hue Jackson, and now they just pull the plug before the bathtub is even half full.
BillsFan4 Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I like both him and Stefanski. But! They have to give them TIME. These are young guys with a lot of potential and no experience in their new roles. The browns need to be patient. I was going to say the same thing. They Have To give them Time. Otherwise it Will fail. Again. They have the youngest GM in the league and a total rookie at HC (who’s barely even called plays). They are going to need some patience. But I’m not sure the Haslam’s have it in them. We will see, I guess. If they do actually end up firing this new crew again after 1-2 years, I honestly hope that every damn coach/exec turns down an interview w/the Browns. seriously, the haslam’s have owned the team 8 years and in that time they’ve had 7 coaches and 6 GMs. Edited January 28, 2020 by BillsFan4
YoloinOhio Posted January 28, 2020 Author Posted January 28, 2020 Dawg Check Fail! I think josh McDaniels is in there somewhere 3
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 57 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Dawg Check Fail! I think josh McDaniels is in there somewhere seriously just watching this episode with the wife as I was reading this post! 1
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