DC Tom Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, dpberr said: Sure. Wouldn't with all our gadgetry in Iraq, we'd see one of those missiles launch? Since the US/Iraqis had a three hour warning prior to the missile attack, I'd imagine we'd have a lot of assets looking at Iranian airspace at the time. Do you buy one of the more reliable aircraft engines exploding like that? No, I'm of the opinion they accidentally shot it down. But we wouldn't necessarily see the launch, in any spectrum (visual, IR, microwave). Mostly, was disagreeing with the implication of "It must have been gunfire, because perforations." 4 minutes ago, Hedge said: What if any of the Gang of Eight were seen as a threat, tied to any of the sources, or also were being surveilled by any of those methods? Video of Pence saying this at the link: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/pence-says-sharing-intel-congress-could-compromise-sources-n1112791?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma Yeah...anything told to the Gang of Eight is in John Kerry's hands before the day is out, and in Iranian hands the next day. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, Nanker said: Well, in a way we did. Just like we're provoking the Iranian people to ditch their Mullahs for a better national governance - one that doesn't worship death, but seeks peace and prosperity. they are stating that mullahs are not interested in peace and prosperity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hedge said: What if any of the Gang of Eight were seen as a threat, tied to any of the sources, or also were being surveilled by any of those methods? Video of Pence saying this at the link: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/pence-says-sharing-intel-congress-could-compromise-sources-n1112791?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma Right. Let's tell tell Schiff and just wait for the press conference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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row_33 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Randy, the winds of ***** are definitely a-blowin' in Iran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hedge said: I'm rather surprised Iran hasn't brought up the USS Vincennes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, DC Tom said: No, I'm of the opinion they accidentally shot it down. But we wouldn't necessarily see the launch, in any spectrum (visual, IR, microwave). Mostly, was disagreeing with the implication of "It must have been gunfire, because perforations." Yeah...anything told to the Gang of Eight is in John Kerry's hands before the day is out, and in Iranian hands the next day. Understood. Thought if it was a missile, we'd have seen it and Trump would have been at his press conference yesterday claiming the Iranians shot it down with a missile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, Hedge said: But it's still Trump's fault. If he hadn't provoked Iran, they wouldn't have had any reason to be on alert or firing missiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 https://twitter.com/NarimanGharib/status/1215334836937928705 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warren Zevon Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, keepthefaith said: But it's still Trump's fault. If he hadn't provoked Iran, they wouldn't have had any reason to be on alert or firing missiles. Good point - haven't thought of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Gary Busey said: Good point - haven't thought of that You hadn't thought of that? Really? I'm a conservative and this was the very first thought I had when I asked myself what the sub-humans would try to make of this whole thing. If they had not attacked the embassy this whole thing would have been avoided. How far back should we go? '79? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, dpberr said: Understood. Thought if it was a missile, we'd have seen Not necessarily. It was a couple hundred miles away from anything outside a satellite. And as a general principle, SAMs are made to not be seen (on the idea that if it can't be seen it's harder to dodge.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dubs Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Hedge said: reckless jingoism? WTF!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, Hedge said: Brennan and Comey specifically kept intelligence about the investigation into multiple campaigns from the Gang of 8 during 2016. ***** him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Hedge said: Yup, they (accidentally) shot it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, Hedge said: "This may well have been unintentional." My God, Trudeau's an idiot. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, Hedge said: What a POS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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