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The US should have strong signal evidence of this.

Surface to air missile systems can be pretty noisy, and depending on what mode is used, the switch from search to tracking and guidance is very apparent.

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17 hours ago, dpberr said:

I think the Iranians accidentally shot that plane down with an AA gun, not a missile.  In the context of shooting missiles into Iraq, somebody heard a plane, got nervous, shot and happened to hit the wings of a fully-fueled 737.  That's likely why the plane was on fire as it crashed.  There were some crash site images that showed perforations in the fuselage.  

 

 

The TOR M1 surface to air missile has a high explosive frag warhead detonated by a proximity fuse.

If it operates properly it will cause lots of holes. 

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8 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Trump at tonight’s rally:

 

President Trump took aim at Rep. Adam Schiff on Thursday, claiming he would have leaked news of airstrikes on Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani to CNN if he had known about it. 

 

"We didn’t have time to call up Nancy, who is not operating with a full deck. No, they want us to call — can you imagine? Calling crooked Adam Schiff?" Trump asked the crowd at an Ohio rally on Thursday before mocking the California Democrat. "We’ve got him lined up, Adam. You little pencil-neck. Nine inches. He buys the smallest shirt collar you can get, and it’s loose. Now, come on, Adam."

 

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absolutely brutal.

yet absolutely true...

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5 hours ago, sherpa said:

The US should have strong signal evidence of this.

Surface to air missile systems can be pretty noisy, and depending on what mode is used, the switch from search to tracking and guidance is very apparent.

One of the stories this morning says that US has evidence of Iranian radar locking in on the Ukraine jet.

Posted
11 hours ago, Doc said:

The focus will now shift to Iran and the killing of innocent people, albeit inadvertently.  The longer they continue to lie, deny and stonewall, the worse it will get for them.

You mean lie like Trump did again last night? Now the shifting rational for killing General whats his name was that he was going to blow up our embassy. Lies

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6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You mean lie like Trump did again last night? Now the shifting rational for killing General whats his name was that he was going to blow up our embassy. Lies

  So do we read your replies in the voice of Yakov Smirnoff today or do we do the voice of the Soviet battalion commander from Rambo III?

Posted
8 hours ago, sherpa said:

The US should have strong signal evidence of this.

Surface to air missile systems can be pretty noisy, and depending on what mode is used, the switch from search to tracking and guidance is very apparent.

 

If they're radar guided (which the SA-15 is, yes), and if you have something looking that way.  

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8 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

If they're radar guided (which the SA-15 is, yes), and if you have something looking that way.  

 

Given the tension level, I would  be absolutely shocked if the US wasn't listening using any of many options.

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4 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

The TOR M1 surface to air missile has a high explosive frag warhead detonated by a proximity fuse.

If it operates properly it will cause lots of holes. 

Yeah, but what do YOU know? Iran says it didn’t shoot it down. #BELIEVETHEAYATOLLAHS! 

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8 minutes ago, Nanker said:

Yeah, but what do YOU know? Iran says it didn’t shoot it down. #BELIEVETHEAYATOLLAHS! 

 

The news told me it was caught in the crossfire with the US, and Trump is to blame.

 

Is that not the case?

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The exclusive interview with the president will air Friday night at 10 p.m. ET on Fox News “The Ingraham Angle.”

The U.S. has repeatedly said that that strike was an act of self-defense to prevent what it has described as an “imminent threat” against U.S. interests and troops.

Earlier Friday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was grilled on the specifics of that threat Friday as reporters quizzed him on what he meant by “imminent.”

“We had specific information on an imminent threat and that threat stream included attacks on U.S. embassies. Period. Full stop,” he said. When later asked what he meant by imminent, he responded: “It was going to happen.”

 

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8 minutes ago, Hedge said:

 

 

 

No doubt had this happened and Trump then took out Suleimani, the Left would still bellow outrage towards Trump, acting no differently than they are now.

 

Trump derangement syndrome is for real with this bunch.

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12 hours ago, Hedge said:

 

 

 

 

Isn't it ironic that they call themselves the "resistance".

When I see a #resist bumper sticker, I'm going to think it's some Iranian proxy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

No doubt had this happened and Trump then took out Suleimani, the Left would still bellow outrage towards Trump, acting no differently than they are now.

 

Trump derangement syndrome is for real with this bunch.

 

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1 hour ago, DC Tom said:

 

That's the most hilarious thing @Tiberius has heard since September of 2012.

You are the one that licks up Trump’s lies. The GOP needs to suffer serious elections defeats or this nation is in trouble. 

 

This clown can’t be trusted with anything. Yet you guys love the dysfunctional POS. 

 

Tomorrow, it will be six embassies, the Statue of Liberty and a General Lee statue the Iranians were after. 

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Nanker said:

Yeah, but what do YOU know? Iran says it didn’t shoot it down. #BELIEVETHEAYATOLLAHS! 

#ISTANDWITHTHEAYATOLLAHS

8 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You are the one that licks up Trump’s lies. The GOP needs to suffer serious elections defeats or this nation is in trouble. 

 

This clown can’t be trusted with anything. Yet you guys love the dysfunctional POS. 

 

Tomorrow, it will be six embassies, the Statue of Liberty and a General Lee statue the Iranians were after. 

Oh Tibs, the fun part hasn't started yet.  We're still just yelling at each other right now.  Give it time sir, give it time.  

 

On another note, is it settled then that Soleimani wasn't there proving defensive response?

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