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  On 1/8/2020 at 5:39 PM, CoudyBills said:

And now? 

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Glad he acted presidential and addressed the nation. Not sure what to think, though, about him going to NATO for help (doesn't he hate NATO?) and claiming he killed 100% of ISIS.

 

I think to act like this is over and either side won is stupid. Nobody wins or loses in wars except for those that die - sadly there is more bloodshed to come.

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Don't forget the true heroes of WW3.

 

Thank you for your service:

 

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And for the reporting, while under missile fire:

 

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And the leadership, despite being under sniper fire:

 

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  On 1/8/2020 at 6:27 PM, Hedge said:

If true, this has taken on an entirely new life:

 

Who they are being arrested BY is the real question. Within the IRGC? Ordered by Khamenei?

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I have to believe it was condoned by Khamenei.  And if so, why is it being done?

 

Maybe Soleimani was planning on seizing control in Iran?

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  On 1/8/2020 at 7:20 PM, Gary Busey said:

 

Glad he acted presidential and addressed the nation. Not sure what to think, though, about him going to NATO for help (doesn't he hate NATO?) and claiming he killed 100% of ISIS.

 

I think to act like this is over and either side won is stupid. Nobody wins or loses in wars except for those that die - sadly there is more bloodshed to come.

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He hates NATO?   That's a new spin.

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  On 1/8/2020 at 8:06 PM, Gary Busey said:

 

You're right - I don't think he hates NATO, though he has disparaged the alliance many times. Odd for him to use it in his speech.

 

IMO

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He's disparaged the contributions vs benefits of member nations, not the idea of NATO.   He's right on those accounts.

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  On 1/8/2020 at 8:06 PM, Gary Busey said:

 

You're right - I don't think he hates NATO, though he has disparaged the alliance many times. Odd for him to use it in his speech.

 

IMO

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I don’t find it odd. Now that other countries are ponying up more of the operating costs, it’s time to make it work for us and get a return on our investment. Another genius stroke IMO.

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  On 1/8/2020 at 8:09 PM, GG said:

 

He's disparaged the contributions vs benefits of member nations, not the idea of NATO.   He's right on those accounts.

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He has called NATO obsolete and has avoided publicly backing Article 5.

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  On 1/8/2020 at 7:13 PM, Hedge said:

 

 

 

 

 

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I saw a short video last night purportedly showing a missile being intercepted and blown up by our military. I could be wrong though and it was just something that happened on a Kentucky gun range.

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  On 1/8/2020 at 7:13 PM, Hedge said:

 

 

 

 

 

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That's about the failure rate I would have expected - little better, actually.  Like I said last night, Iran has a significant aerospace capability, but little opportunity to test.  

 

And Western failure rates are better...but not by much.  10% or so. depending on the platform and weapon.  As I recall, the Minuteman III's reliability rate was only around 70%.  

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  On 1/8/2020 at 10:38 PM, keepthefaith said:

 

Yesterday was a bad day for Iran.  Missed killing Americans and killed 180 or so others. 

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 +50ish more during the stampede.

 

 

 

 

 

And a conflicting opinion from the "Pentagon":

 

 

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But at least there is consensus on the Congressional briefing...

 

 

  

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Posted
  On 1/8/2020 at 10:38 PM, keepthefaith said:

 

Yesterday was a bad day for Iran.  Missed killing Americans and killed 180 or so others. 

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All part of the plan....experiences like yesterday and this week should have them begging for US delegation to fly over and start teaching them western democracy any minute now

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  On 1/8/2020 at 10:46 PM, Hedge said:

 

 

 

 

  

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Those missiles are not that accurate.  Most have a CEP on the order of a thousand meters or so.  If they Iranians "chose" to aim at dirt, they would have missed and hit something of value.  

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