Buffalo716 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 8:56 PM, Reed83HOF said: He deserves a raise, @GunnerBill is 1000000% correct on him and Hyde disguising coverage and the sum of the parts has been top notch, I'm just not sure how much cap I put into the safeties. We have the room to give a him a raise and structure it so it hits next offseason and limits the upfront hit this year, but from a production standpoint alone he is replaceable at a cheaper contract. I would look to spend my premium cap space on QB, WR, CB, Edge, Pass Catching TE over a zone safety. We could reasonably fit him in though without affecting our ability in the next couple seasons to sign whoever we want. Expand He deserves a raise but nothing crazy.. McDermott is a defensive back guru is 100% the reason poyer has broke out in the league McDermott has him in the right spots to succeed. Poyer on any other team is honestly probably a jag, maybe slightly better 2
Don Otreply Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 8:57 PM, stony said: $10 she has none. Expand Not taking that bet, ? , I likes me some bush, it’s odd that women will have their pubs yanked out, as painful as it is, and do it over and over, trying desperately to look prepubescent as a style statement, kinda F’ed up if you ask me.. Go Bills!!! 1
Reed83HOF Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 9:01 PM, Buffalo716 said: He deserves a raise but nothing crazy.. McDermott is a defensive back guru is 100% the reason poyer has broke out in the league McDermott has him in the right spots to succeed. Poyer on any other team is honestly probably a jag, maybe slightly better Expand It looks like there is good value in RD2 & 3 for a replacement this year I think we can get WR, RT and S in RDs, 1, 2 and 3 with a little bit of movement. Sign Hooper and Yannick and call it a day. He isn't a Minkah, Derwin, Earl or Harrison Smith so I'm not sure I pay a premium for him...
Buffalo716 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 9:06 PM, Reed83HOF said: It looks like there is good value in RD2 & 3 for a replacement this year I think we can get WR, RT and S in RDs, 1, 2 and 3 with a little bit of movement. Sign Hooper and Yannick and call it a day. He isn't a Minkah, Derwin, Earl or Harrison Smith so I'm not sure I pay a premium for him... Expand He isn't anything like any of those guys.. he is good safety in the league who has found his scheme fit .. which most players don't find in the league So he has benefitted immensely from it I think drafting a kid to groom would be smart. And the 3rd round would probably land a good football player 1
GunnerBill Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 9:01 PM, Buffalo716 said: He deserves a raise but nothing crazy.. McDermott is a defensive back guru is 100% the reason poyer has broke out in the league McDermott has him in the right spots to succeed. Poyer on any other team is honestly probably a jag, maybe slightly better Expand Possibly. I do think you are a little harsh on him. But also as I say while I have no doubt McDermott could coach up the next guy replicating the chemistry with Hyde is near impossible. I agree thought. There is a price at which you have to let him walk. 1
Buffalo716 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 9:13 PM, GunnerBill said: Possibly. I do think you are a little harsh on him. But also as I say while I have no doubt McDermott could coach up the next guy replicating the chemistry with Hyde is near impossible. I agree thought. There is a price at which you have to let him walk. Expand The chemistry between them is the only thing that would suck losing which would take a few seasons to grow But you can definitely draft a bigger , stronger , faster guy to groom.. while trying to negotiate with poyer
GunnerBill Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 9:20 PM, Buffalo716 said: The chemistry between them is the only thing that would suck losing which would take a few seasons to grow But you can definitely draft a bigger , stronger , faster guy to groom.. while trying to negotiate with poyer Expand They could. The other incredible thing with those two is how healthy they have stayed. How many games have they missed between them in 3 years? Can't be more than a couple. So I really have no feel for how our current depth would hold up having to play for a longer period. 1
Buffalo716 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 9:22 PM, GunnerBill said: They could. The other incredible thing with those two is how healthy they have stayed. How many games have they missed between them in 3 years? Can't be more than a couple. So I really have no feel for how our current depth would hold up having to play for a longer period. Expand The Bills new medical equipment and top facilities seem to keep our players healthier than years past. Safety is also a relatively healthy position compared to RB or LBr or Lineman
GoBills808 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 9:20 PM, Buffalo716 said: The chemistry between them is the only thing that would suck losing which would take a few seasons to grow But you can definitely draft a bigger , stronger , faster guy to groom.. while trying to negotiate with poyer Expand Poyer has the unfortunate habit of getting trucked into the end zone
Buffalo716 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 9:28 PM, GoBills808 said: Poyer has the unfortunate habit of getting trucked into the end zone Expand He has an unfortunate habit of being trucked for 3 years Great coverage guy , not a great tackler... Routinely gets dragged 5 yards
Reed83HOF Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 9:22 PM, GunnerBill said: They could. The other incredible thing with those two is how healthy they have stayed. How many games have they missed between them in 3 years? Can't be more than a couple. So I really have no feel for how our current depth would hold up having to play for a longer period. Expand You could easily give him a 3-4 yr deal and now hurt yourself at all and honestly I am fine either way. The sum of the parts is outstanding and it may not even be worth messing with, but I can understand if they did. If I had to chose between Yannick or Hooper over him I would. I'm not sure he is worth $9-10 million/season 1
stony Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 9:04 PM, Don Otreply said: Not taking that bet, ? , I likes me some bush, it’s odd that women will have their pubs yanked out, as painful as it is, and do it over and over, trying desperately to look prepubescent as a style statement, kinda F’ed up if you ask me.. Go Bills!!! Expand I think my post was bushwhacked! 1
noacls Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Careful Ms. Bush, some high end safety talent in this draft. Simmons (Clem), Delpit(LSU), McKinney(Tide), Wade(OSU), Davis(Cal) And in the later rounds for some nostalgia Antoine Winfield Jr(,Minn)
noacls Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Or common sense. Poyer will be 29 at the start of next season. You dont give a 30 year old safety a big contract. 1
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2020 Author Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) On 1/6/2020 at 11:11 PM, noacls said: Careful Ms. Bush, some high end safety talent in this draft. Simmons (Clem), Delpit(LSU), McKinney(Tide), Wade(OSU), Davis(Cal) And in the later rounds for some nostalgia Antoine Winfield Jr(,Minn) Expand Did Winfield declare? He’s a corner though Wade is returning to Ohio state (also a corner) Edited January 6, 2020 by YoloinOhio
noacls Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 11:19 PM, YoloinOhio said: Did Winfield declare? He’s a corner though Wade is returning to Ohio state (also a corner) Expand Winfield is listed at safety on the draft network . He is a redshirt sophomore, so not sure. Threw him on list because big fan of his dad. As to Wade did not see that, Thank You
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2020 Author Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) On 1/6/2020 at 11:25 PM, noacls said: Winfield is listed at safety on the draft network . He is a redshirt sophomore, so not sure. Threw him on list because big fan of his dad. As to Wade did not see that, Thank You Expand He might be a safety in the NFL. I don’t think he’s very fast. (Winfield) Edited January 6, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1
Reed83HOF Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 11:31 PM, YoloinOhio said: He might be a safety in the NFL. I don’t think he’s very fast. (Winfield) Expand no he is not
billieve420 Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 4:17 PM, thebandit27 said: Where is the Jaquan love coming from? He played 53 defensive snaps in 2019. Expand Team likes him and played well in regular season finale. He will have shot in training camp to take #3 safety spot next year. If he plays well you have potential replacement. Can’t pay everyone and sometimes tough decisions need to be made.
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