SoCal Deek Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Agent 91 said: Shouldnt have come to that I disagree. That was when the momentum was still in play. Duke has the first down in field goal range. That drive continues and the Bills go on to win in regulation.
Artful Dodger Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 Allen's hands which have some trouble holding onto the ball. Allen's brain which caused him to lateral the ball to nowhere. Allen's football sense which caused him to take some really foolish sacks at the worst possible time. I like Allen, and I think he's going to be really good. He's already pretty good. He's a playmaker on a team with too few playmakers and he's a a gamer who almost led the team back to win, but his inexperience cost us this game. 1
Agent 91 Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Defense. Can’t give up 19 straight points. Why not? Normal offenses can score. 19 points is a good day
Buffbills716 Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Love the fans blaming the QB who had 372 yards of offense and your only touchdown. Give me a break. The blind side call was horrible and defensive tackling was atrocious again. Go and find some play makers. #17 had a ton of heart tonight. And a great many mistakes... 1
Agent 91 Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, NOVA fan said: Allen's hands which have some trouble holding onto the ball. Allen's brain which caused him to lateral the ball to nowhere. Allen's football sense which caused him to take some really foolish sacks at the worst possible time. I like Allen, and I think he's going to be really good. He's already pretty good. He's a playmaker on a team with too few playmakers and he's a a gamer who almost led the team back to win, but his inexperience cost us this game. Sense you make? Not allowed
Nuncha Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, NOVA fan said: Allen's hands which have some trouble holding onto the ball. Allen's brain which caused him to lateral the ball to nowhere. Allen's football sense which caused him to take some really foolish sacks at the worst possible time. I like Allen, and I think he's going to be really good. He's already pretty good. He's a playmaker on a team with too few playmakers and he's a a gamer who almost led the team back to win, but his inexperience cost us this game. Plenty of blame to go around but Allen's play I thought is pretty low on the list. 1
SydneyBillsFan Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 In chronological order: 1. The overthrow by 6 inches to Smoke 2. The Duke EZ drop 3. The JJ Watt sack 4. the drop in intensity and lapses in concentration by the defence 5. A series of bone headed plays by Josh 6. The teflon tackling of Watson at various stages 7. The dodgy spot on the Hopkins reception in OT 8. The colossally bad zone setup on 3rd and 18 9. The missed double chance sack by Milano and ?? All underpinned by some mind boggling play calling on offense. Yeah, there's definitely room for improvement next season. Now bring on the draft - after I get severely drunk!!
oldmanfan Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Agent 91 said: Why not? Normal offenses can score. 19 points is a good day You have to man up and stop them.
Agent 91 Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Note how many folks mention Allen in these posts! It's a fanbase in total denial. How do you mean? You absolve him from blame?
JoshAllin Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 not saying john cost us, but he looked off ,didnt know where the sidelines where 1
familykwi Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Love the fans blaming the QB who had 372 yards of offense and your only touchdown. Give me a break. The blind side call was horrible and defensive tackling was atrocious again. Go and find some play makers. #17 had a ton of heart tonight. Heart is nice, but Watson had heart too in addition to the headiness to not make atrocious decisions when his team needs him to lead. I lost about all faith in Josh on that moronic lateral. He’s a great athlete with heart, but I don’t see the promised land as long as he’s pulling the trigger. A long, deep, cross field throw to your fullback is not much better. Before you say Josh is young, Watson is only 8 months older and makes good decisions when needed. Josh loses his mind when things get intense against legit competition. To answer the original question though, this was a team loss. Way too many errors to put it on any one person. PLENTY of blame to go round.
Buffalo Boy Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 BS block call. Numerous uncalled delay of games. Bad spot for a first down. Two(!!!) guys missing the block on Cunningham on the QB sweep. Effing infuriating. The whole D backfield dropping too deep in n 3/18. JA missing Duke on a low throw.
thenorthremembers Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, familykwi said: Heart is nice, but Watson had heart too in addition to the headiness to not make atrocious decisions when his team needs him to lead. I lost about all faith in Josh on that moronic lateral. He’s a great athlete with heart, but I don’t see the promised land as long as he’s pulling the trigger. A long, deep, cross field throw to your fullback is not much better. Before you say Josh is young, Watson is only 8 months older and makes good decisions when needed. Josh loses his mind when things get intense against legit competition. To answer the original question though, this was a team loss. Way too many errors to put it on any one person. PLENTY of blame to go round. Allen played pretty much on par with Watson tonight. The lateral cost the Bills exactly nothing. The Bills lost tonight because the coaches took the foot off the gas. Allen was, and has been many times during the season the Bills entire offense. Edited January 5, 2020 by thenorthremembers 2
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) Brian Daboll McD/ Frazier Duke Williams Allen Defensive backfield ( 3rd and 18) Milano Edited January 5, 2020 by Boatdrinks
GaryPinC Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: I put it on the Head coach. Game was there to be put away by halftime but his conservativeness left ot open like many times this season. This absolutely has to change This. McDermott got the lead and went conservative with almost all runs. He let Houston hang around and they found a way to seize the momentum. Don't microanalyze the individual failures. It's not on Daboll. Look at the game he called to that point. He was told under McD to limit the playcalling. Continuous improvement Sean. You neutered our offense and it was the beginning of the end. You had Houston on the mat and instead of that last finishing move for the pin, you were content to ride on their backs hoping the lead would hold up. Not good for our offense's confidence either. Don't get me wrong. I'm a fan of McD overall and glad he's our coach. He just needs to modify his philosophy here. We do need to grow up also. Great season though. Obvious optimism for the future!8
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 1st and 10. Off tackle to gore. Spike. Near TD to duke. FG. Bills up 13-0 waste two plays and be conservative.
Putin Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 42 minutes ago, fishgrappler said: McDemott Daboll Allen Watson 1
DCbillsfan Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 43 minutes ago, jav said: Coaching 1)You can't play not to lose: punting from 40 yd line on 4th and 5 when you're up 16-0 with all the momentum 2)Holding back blitz multiple times in obvious passing situations--if you give an NFL QB enough time--especially a good one--he will find an open WR 3)Time management at end of first half, bungling an opportunity to go for TD instead of settle for FG 4)Underutilizing Singletary (Gore should see the field only to give Singletary a breather) and Beasley Milano--how many tackles can one guy miss? Cody Ford--he's not a RT, he 's a RG: give him help and/or move him inside--see coaching above ?
Agent 91 Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: You have to man up and stop them. They were put in tough spots, but they did their job. 3 TDs wins this game. 3. 21 points a game is pedestrian and that's all we needed to do
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