GG Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said: "Next year"....our depressing mantra Yeah I know, but what else is there? Josh hasn't answered the big Q yet.
TwistofFate Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, SCBills said: You sound like someone who believes pass attempts = aggressive, and then discounts actual in-game decisions. Lol, ok. How many passes did Watson throw? How many rushing yards did we have? You sound like someone in denial. There is no excuse for 46 passes when you led the game for 3 quarters. Theres no excuse to come out gunning in OT when your Qb is struggling unbelievable in the 4th with fumbles, sacks, ######ed laterals, etc, when you just need a sustained drive with 3 points.
Nextmanup Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: I bet you lead the forum in negative reputation emoji's! Because you are a one agenda poster and offer literally nothing of value. What do you offer? Nothing huh? That's what I thought. I pound the message b/c this fanbase is in denial and someone needs to tell them what the hell is going on. 1 1
Johnnycage46 Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, GG said: Yeah I know, but what else is there? Josh hasn't answered the big Q yet. I am wearing thin on the "next years". I didnt think this was a SB team but this loss was very disappointing. Feels similar to 2017. Not super promising. Outcoached, outplayed, outeverythinged. This is going to be a long 9 months. Edited January 5, 2020 by Johnnycage46 2 1
Rocbillsfan1 Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) Josh Allen is the Qb 100% for the next 2 seasons anything after that is purely speculative bs. Edited January 5, 2020 by Rocbillsfan1 1 1
GunnerBill Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 I don't know. I am still optimistic but I am not ready to say "Yes" yet.
Golden*Wheels Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 Regardless of ALL else....the lateral and some of those sacks to take us out of FG range...they're pretty much inexcusable decisions. Shouldn't be happening.
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, SCBills said: Very disappointed in sequence where he seemingly lost his mind - Crazy bad sack, followed by the bizarro lateral on the next drive. That being said.... he played pretty damn well. He was a weapon with his legs, was pretty accurate and made some absolutely absurd throws, some in the clutch. We didn’t lose, and only score 19 due to Allen. We lost and only scored 19 because, once again, our coaching staff thought we could rely on the defense up two scores. We turtled up, went conservative, and just like NE, and just like Balt, we came up just short. McDermott is a damn good coach, but I hope he learned this very painful lesson. How many more losses to better teams before McDermott gets it figured out? I assume we'll improve the personnel for 2020 but we might see same results under McD unless he himself grows as a coach. There is a reason we were in close games with garbage teams this year We play not to lose. Coach needs to re evaluate roster construction as well. Too many special teamers eating up spots We dont need a roster spot for reserved for blocking fullback (its 2020 not 1960) A blocking TE. A KR who is a lousy wr. A wr just for jet sweeps.
SCBills Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't know. I am still optimistic but I am not ready to say "Yes" yet. That’s where I am. I voted “yes”, but it’s more of a trending towards yes vote. If he didn’t go bonkers for 3 plays in the 4th, I’d probably be close to saying yes. I thought, outside the bad sack, lateral, throw to DiMarco, he was pretty damn good tonight.
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: What do you offer? Nothing huh? That's what I thought. I pound the message b/c this fanbase is in denial and someone needs to tell them what the hell is going on. I have been offering a more well rounded opinion than your one-track agenda. Like we need an improved O-line, several more WRs, and for Josh to make better decisions. All you have to offer is a new QB, NOTHING ELSE. Guess what slick, get used to Josh being around for a long time. 1 2 1
The Frankish Reich Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: I am wearing thin on the "next years". I didnt think this was a SB team but this loss was very disappointing. Feels similar to 2017. Not super promising. Outcoached, outplayed, outeverythinged. This is going to be a long 9 months. It's weird, but 2017 was just magical. In a bizarre way. This year's team was objectively better, but the season wasn't as much fun to follow. I imagine Bears fans felt the same after the 2018 season -- a team that performed very well, but also a team that always felt a little more lucky than really good.
tcampbell104 Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jester said: I believe Josh is our man. Did he have a stellar game? No. But were coaches and game planning stellar? No. I feel like when the winds of change shifted from interesting to conservative that’s when Josh reverted to “bad Josh”. Does Josh need to improve? Hell yes. But he has the tools. you are right. people dont realize how raw josh was coming out of college. i believe next year is going to be great 2
Artful Dodger Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: That’s where I am. I voted “yes”, but it’s more of a trending towards yes vote. If he didn’t go bonkers for 3 plays in the 4th, I’d probably be close to saying yes. I thought, outside the bad sack, lateral, throw to DiMarco, he was pretty damn good tonight. Both the bad sack and the lateral are directly due to inexperience. Hopefully they'll go away in time.
Johnnycage46 Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: It's weird, but 2017 was just magical. In a bizarre way. This year's team was objectively better, but the season wasn't as much fun to follow. I imagine Bears fans felt the same after the 2018 season -- a team that performed very well, but also a team that always felt a little more lucky than really good. Agreed. 2017 was great. This year was....ok....but after today....very disappointing. This season almost seemed anticlimactic. 1
LanderPoke Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 The protection was horrendous in the 2nd half. Josh put a few balls in good spots where a WR worth a crap would have caught. Josh played well enough to win, but the o line and lack of good WRs lost the game. Despite all that, the play that lost the game was the designed QB run in OT where Josh would have run for 20 yards and gotten within fg range if TWO Bills blockers didn't let some Texan defender waltz by them, literally let him by untouched, and light up Josh and likely give him a concussion. Why didn't they block that guy??????? 2
nedboy7 Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 Any QB who makes the playoffs but loses is a loser at heart. They all need to be replaced. Right kids?
GunnerBill Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, NOVA fan said: Both the bad sack and the lateral are directly due to inexperience. Hopefully they'll go away in time. So I have seen the 4th down sack before. He got sacked in almost the exact same way the first game of his final year at Wyoming. He has to start to learn from that.
The Frankish Reich Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Johnnycage46 said: Agreed. 2017 was great. This year was....ok....but after today....very disappointing. This season almost seemed anticlimactic. After literally a half century of Bills fandom (I went to my first game in 1970!), I'm at a point where I appreciate the entertainment value of a season more than the end result. 2017 gave us unforgettable moments: Nathan Peterman and the blowout losses. The snow game win. The Andy Dalton miracle that got us in the playoffs. All kinds of weird stuff, and a playoff game much like today's (but even more painful because we got beat by Blake Bortles, not Deshaun Watson). This season was entertaining in a more formulaic, grind it out way.
SCBills Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, LanderPoke said: The protection was horrendous in the 2nd half. Josh put a few balls in good spots where a WR worth a crap would have caught. Josh played well enough to win, but the o line and lack of good WRs lost the game. Despite all that, the play that lost the game was the designed QB run in OT where Josh would have run for 20 yards and gotten within fg range if TWO Bills blockers didn't let some Texan defender waltz by them, literally let him by untouched, and light up Josh and likely give him a concussion. Why didn't they block that guy??????? Literally agonized over that play my entire drive home from watching the game. That was it. That was the game winner. And three lineman couldn’t bother blocking one linebacker. 1
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