Bermuda Triangle Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Happens all the time Can you give me one example? Can you also give me another example of the substitution refs coming onto the field, to provide their interpretation? 1
GoBills808 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, Bermuda Triangle said: Can you give me one example? Can you also give me another example of the substitution refs coming onto the field, to provide their interpretation? Of course! Just like everyone else who has made this claim has been able to provide evidence!
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Of course! Just like everyone else who has made this claim has been able to provide evidence! There's evidence of the refs - absent replay- changing the call of a scoring play when there was no call to the contrary made on the field?
mannc Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, DCOrange said: 100% agreed. They obviously screwed up the ruling at the end of the day. I'm only trying to point out that they purposefully made sure that the official call on the field was a touchback because had they come out of that huddle and called it a touchdown, there's no way it would have been overturned. I hadn’t thought of it that way, but in my mind it’s really a distinction without a difference. 1
GoBills808 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, Bermuda Triangle said: There's evidence of the refs - absent replay- changing the call of a scoring play when there was no call to the contrary made on the field? Look back through this thread bro! Every post claiming this happens all the time has supplied concrete video proof to support the claim. I mean, they're definitely not just making things up and then providing zero evidence, that would be absurd. 1
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Look back through this thread bro! Every post claiming this happens all the time has supplied concrete video proof to support the claim. I mean, they're definitely not just making things up and then providing zero evidence, that would be absurd. Ah, well played. ? 1
Alphadawg7 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 WOW lmao...16 pages on a topic thats a non-topic? Come on, no one can really be arguing that we should have been given the TD there right? I mean its clear he gave himself up, whining about its just being poor sports about the loss. ONE MILLION PERCENT no one would be claiming that was a TD had a Bills player been the one receiving and did that. Anyone who claims they would still see it as a TD for the kicking team had the Bills been receiving that kick and that happened is lying.
T&C Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: Exactly...That's the rule...SCORING play...It was a scoring play...By rule there is only one way it can be reversed and that is by replay... Folks can say what they want about the spirit of the blah, blah, blah...They truth is there are a million different ways for NFL players to make boneheaded mistakes that cost their team TD's...This was one of the million...The difference in this one is they quite literally threw away the rule book in MULTIPLE ways to make a feel good (for the Texans) call... Did it cost the Bills the game? Nope...Was it the wrong call...Absolutely, by the rule book it was...And the time for "common sense" to prevail was not last Saturday...It was this coming year at the Owners meetings...Period..End of story...? 100% disagree. Had that been called correctly it would have shut up the crowd and given us major momentum in the 2nd half. Also, the 2nd half as we all watched it, would not have happened as it did... not one play, none of it. We should be playing the Chiefs this weekend, but instead a whole year worth of work went down the ***** drain because the NFL ***** this up royally. 1
Spiderweb Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 That must be cleaned up this off-season. The ball must be downed in the endzone. Even with current rule, it was a wrong call.
Jauronimo Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: WOW lmao...16 pages on a topic thats a non-topic? Come on, no one can really be arguing that we should have been given the TD there right? I mean its clear he gave himself up, whining about its just being poor sports about the loss. ONE MILLION PERCENT no one would be claiming that was a TD had a Bills player been the one receiving and did that. Anyone who claims they would still see it as a TD for the kicking team had the Bills been receiving that kick and that happened is lying. It wasn't clear to the back judge. You know, the guy who gets paid hefty sums a year to assess these things. What did you see that constitutes that he clearly "gave himself up"? 1
T&C Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: WOW lmao...16 pages on a topic thats a non-topic? Come on, no one can really be arguing that we should have been given the TD there right? I mean its clear he gave himself up, whining about its just being poor sports about the loss. ONE MILLION PERCENT no one would be claiming that was a TD had a Bills player been the one receiving and did that. Anyone who claims they would still see it as a TD for the kicking team had the Bills been receiving that kick and that happened is lying. Disagree. Did you watch the video I put up? Might have slipped to the last page depending on settings I suppose. Go to 5:15 if you are interested.
GoBills808 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: It wasn't clear to the back judge. You know, the guy who gets paid hefty sums a year to assess these things. What did you see that constitutes that he clearly "gave himself up"? Wasn't clear to Bills coverage team either. Pretty much the only people it was clear to were Booger McFarlane, Joe Tessitore, and @Alphadawg7 1
SinceThe70s Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Wasn't clear to Bills coverage team either. Pretty much the only people it was clear to were Booger McFarlane, Joe Tessitore, and @Alphadawg7 You left out John Parry. 1
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: You left out John Parry. yes, he was parroting the "common sense" mantra that the refs chose to apply...instead of the rule book. 1
Jauronimo Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Wasn't clear to Bills coverage team either. Pretty much the only people it was clear to were Booger McFarlane, Joe Tessitore, and @Alphadawg7 I think we should retroactively go back and overturn every play where a rookie pass catcher or runner forgot that theres a difference between NCAA and NFL rules, assumed he was down and voluntarily left a live ball in the field of play. These guys who make millions to play a game shouldn't be expected to understand the fundamental rules of the game and adhere to them. Particularly, the specialists who have one f@#$%ing job. Its the responsibility of the officials to make sure they can't affect the outcome of the game with their blithe indifference for the rules and general stupidity. Andre Roberts wasted so much energy kneeling this year. Its no wonder our return game sucked. 2 2
GoBills808 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: I think we should retroactively go back and overturn every play where a rookie pass catcher or runner forgot that theres a difference between NCAA and NFL rules, assumed he was down and voluntarily left a live ball in the field of play. These guys who make millions to play a game shouldn't be expected to understand the fundamental rules of the game and adhere to them. Particularly, the specialists who have one f@#$%ing job. Its the responsibility of the officials to make sure they can't affect the outcome of the game with their blithe indifference for the rules and general stupidity. Andre Roberts wasted so much energy kneeling this year. Its no wonder our return game sucked. I’m surprised the NFLPA hasn’t bargained kneeling out of the game already. It’s a tremendous burden on the returner and it’s so difficult to officiate.
Mat68 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 The rule, is the rule. You cant pick and choose a rule to make the game more entertaining and enjoyable. The Texans returnman made an incredible mistake. He caught a ball he should have let go for a touchback. He then forgot to kneel before giving up the ball. This is no different than any other kneel down or fair catch situation. To end a game s QBs down get a snap and turn around and hand a ball to the ref. They kneel first. That Td effectively ends the game. The NFL didnt want the majority of the the viewers to turn channel when its 20-0. If Buffalo did the same thing it would have been a "Billsy" thing to do. It was a Texan thing to do because they melted down in every playoff game under Obrien. 1
pennstate10 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: WOW lmao...16 pages on a topic thats a non-topic? Come on, no one can really be arguing that we should have been given the TD there right? I mean its clear he gave himself up, whining about its just being poor sports about the loss. ONE MILLION PERCENT no one would be claiming that was a TD had a Bills player been the one receiving and did that. Anyone who claims they would still see it as a TD for the kicking team had the Bills been receiving that kick and that happened is lying. Sorry Dude, you're one million percent wrong. You cant read my mind,or discern my intent (unlike the menin black). As a Bills fan, if the shoe was on the other foot,I would've. Said "wow, we really dodged a bullet there. That should have be a Texan TD" 1
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Hey @Alphadawg7 what if he did everything the same except at the last second realized some of the Bills players had started walking to the sideline? Then ran it it back for a TD? by rule that’s a TD and the bills should have been more attentive. I think the same standard should be held to the returner. The ref even waved his hand at him warning him not to toss it. 1
Alphadawg7 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: It wasn't clear to the back judge. You know, the guy who gets paid hefty sums a year to assess these things. What did you see that constitutes that he clearly "gave himself up"? Did it remain a TD? No, so apparently it was clear to them. There is literally nothing to discuss here.
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