3rdnlng Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...very insensitive....after reading the NY Times piece, he is Iran's "Edgar Allen Poe" and we took him out......... We just helped him to "not go gentle into that good night". 1
sherpa Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: It didn’t start in ‘79, it started way before that. You don’t want war, you just want a starting date? If your argument is simply it started in ‘79, then you are as ignorant as your argument. I cant follow your argument because there isn’t one. So in your thread starting post you posted: "From day one Trump was intent on doing economic warfare on Iran and now we have seen that escalate to a shooting war. " And an hour ago, you state: "It didn’t start in ‘79, it started way before that." Do you not see the incongruity of your own statements? I'm not the kind of guy that gets into keyboard arguments or piles on, but you are one strange source. The fact is that the "shooting" between Iran, the US and a host of other countries has been going on for decades. From seizing an embassy, blindfolding and parading people around Tehran, the crap they source in the middle east through proxies, mining the Strait of Hormuz, (viewed in international law as an act of war and thus "shooting"), launching missiles, running gun boats at ships in international waters, mining a vessel, including the USS Roberts, shooting a drone in international airspace and a host of other things on their side..... and on ours: Operation Praying Mantis which basically sunk half their fleet, including dropping an LGB down the stack of the Iranian ship Sabalan, (mistakenly attributed to an A-6, but actually done by an F-18 from my old squadron, go Shrikes, and on and on and on. Ya. the shooting just started. '
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 Just now, 3rdnlng said: We just helped him to "not go gentle into that good night". ...who's next?.....we can accommodate anyone...........
billsfan_34 Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...very insensitive....after reading the NY Times piece, he is Iran's "Edgar Allen Poe" and we took him out......... I just do not think some fathom the level of evil the Iranian regime is. Everyone loves their nice house and toys on the backs of a strong US foreign policy, yet when we have to flex our muscle the leftists are appalled? 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: And 9-11!! Assisted in the clandestine travel to Afghanistan of 10 of the 12 terrorists who carried out the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States. 3:05 PM · Jan 3, 2020·Twitter for iPhone 2.4K Retweets 7.3K Likes Why don’t you show a picture of the Shahs prisons? It didn’t start in ‘79, it started way before that. You don’t want war, you just want a starting date? If your argument is simply it started in ‘79, then you are as ignorant as your argument. I cant follow your argument because there isn’t one. We can say the Shiite and Sunni’s have been fighting each other for the last 1000 years. I have been to the middle east and studied it extensively. Bottom line, the majority of Persians are really good people led by a horrible group of Mullahs since 1979. Our failure to act properly back then was a major mistake however the US was still trying to heal from Vietnam. Anyways, war isn’t good- Iran will strike anywhere Americans are regardless if we killed a General- who really is a legitimate target.
3rdnlng Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: I just do not think some fathom the level of evil the Iranian regime is. Everyone loves their nice house and toys on the backs of a strong US foreign policy, yet when we have to flex our muscle the leftists are appalled? They are only appalled if the other side does it. Obama did it righteously though, hundreds or possibly thousands of times.
billsfan_34 Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: They are only appalled if the other side does it. Obama did it righteously though, hundreds or possibly thousands of times. Exactly- what ever happened to one America? It has become so ridiculous. People that have no clue what really goes on in this world are upset we killed an Iranian General especially after how many times we have shown restraint?
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: I just do not think some fathom the level of evil the Iranian regime is. Everyone loves their nice house and toys on the backs of a strong US foreign policy, yet when we have to flex our muscle the leftists are appalled? We can say the Shiite and Sunni’s have been fighting each other for the last 1000 years. I have been to the middle east and studied it extensively. Bottom line, the majority of Persians are really good people led by a horrible group of Mullahs since 1979. Our failure to act properly back then was a major mistake however the US was still trying to heal from Vietnam. Anyways, war isn’t good- Iran will strike anywhere Americans are regardless if we killed a General- who really is a legitimate target. ...and I was being sarcastic....the regime is woefully EVIL....the suppressed people are not......I took my gang to San Juan for vacation and had coffee daily at Starbuck's with a wonderful woman who lived in Tehran with her husband....it is just hard to fathom how "fighting each other for 1000's of years" continues to foment......discounting how cohabitation could be much better for all warring parties....forget changing it though...SMH.....
billsfan_34 Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...and I was being sarcastic....the regime is woefully EVIL....the suppressed people are not......I took my gang to San Juan for vacation and had coffee daily at Starbuck's with a wonderful woman who lived in Tehran with her husband....it is just hard to fathom how "fighting each other for 1000's of years" continues to foment......discounting how cohabitation could be much better for all warring parties....forget changing it though...SMH..... I knew you were- I was just giving my take. It is next to impossible to change the ideology of terrorist states. Hopefully we can get out of the middle east and let them duke it out- we have spilled enough blood, money, and resources into a region that is ungrateful. 33 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: They are only appalled if the other side does it. Obama did it righteously though, hundreds or possibly thousands of times. One day the may be appalled when these people are on their front door step then chopping off their heads.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 ....we would NEVER attack their homeland in deference to the general Iranian people who favor us but are suppressed to the point of execution.....attack us on open seas or neutral grounds?....um...."this ain't your father's Oldsmobile...er...Obama Administration"......perhaps "locked and loaded" ??....stay tuned...... Iran Published 3 hours ago Last Update 2 hours ago Iranian Revolutionary Guard commander threatens attacks on 'vital' US destroyers, warships By Paulina Dedaj | Fox News A senior military official in Iran threatened an attack on some 35 “American targets,” including “destroyers and warships” near the Persian Gulf Friday night, promising to seek revenge for the killing of Gen. Qassem Soleimani, according to a report. The latest threat against the U.S. came late Friday night from senior Revolutionary Guards commander Gen. Gholamali Abuhamzeh, a day after top Iranian military general Soleimani was wiped out by an airstrike at Baghdad International Airport. https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-revolutionary-guard-commander-attack-destroys-warships-persian-gulf
3rdnlng Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....we would NEVER attack their homeland in deference to the general Iranian people who favor us but are suppressed to the point of execution.....attack us on open seas or neutral grounds?....um...."this ain't your father's Oldsmobile...er...Obama Administration"......perhaps "locked and loaded" ??....stay tuned...... Iran Published 3 hours ago Last Update 2 hours ago Iranian Revolutionary Guard commander threatens attacks on 'vital' US destroyers, warships By Paulina Dedaj | Fox News A senior military official in Iran threatened an attack on some 35 “American targets,” including “destroyers and warships” near the Persian Gulf Friday night, promising to seek revenge for the killing of Gen. Qassem Soleimani, according to a report. The latest threat against the U.S. came late Friday night from senior Revolutionary Guards commander Gen. Gholamali Abuhamzeh, a day after top Iranian military general Soleimani was wiped out by an airstrike at Baghdad International Airport. https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-revolutionary-guard-commander-attack-destroys-warships-persian-gulf Now might just be the time to let Iran know that if they as much as fart our way they'll lose their navy and all oil production facilities as a starting point. Oh, but first all of their air defenses. We need to remind them that we're standing pat with our royal flush and no matter how many cards they draw, we win. Biggly. 5
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Now might just be the time to let Iran know that if they as much as fart our way they'll lose their navy and all oil production facilities as a starting point. Oh, but first all of their air defenses. We need to remind them that we're standing pat with our royal flush and no matter how many cards they draw, we win. Biggly. ...who or what administration has made a forceful attempt to reign them in besides Trump?...tough talk?...sanctions?.....Obama cash to "our friends"?......yet they still persist...yet the Dems, NY Times, et al are out in full anti-bloom.......could TDS preclude sound military measures?...naw not a chance......let's reinvigorate the "World's Bully Apology Tour"........OR...in the eloquent words of the late Flip Wilson, "Israel made us do it"....... Edited January 4, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy 2
KD in CA Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, sherpa said: Nope. Never fired. I got the first intercept of an Iranian hostile after the embassy. Launched of Kitty Hawk and got a com to connect with the E2, early warning aircraft. They linked me to an intercept of an Iranian P3 who was closing on the ship, at 200 miles. Tapped him at 150 miles, and showed him my missiles, two heaters,with the appropriate hand signals, telling him that if he threatened the task force I would kill him. Task Force commander, aboard Kitty Hawk at the time, said that if he gets within 50 miles, I was going to get a cleared to fire, or if they open any doors on the bottom. The speculation was that they had Harpoon, and anti ship missile we had sold them, and that was a reasonable range to eliminate the threat. He closed to 45 miles, my missiles were locked, and I asked for a cleared to fire, and they said no. P3 got to 30 miles, and I said that since it was so close, I would first take out the missile as it dropped, and then the airplane. The guy turned away at 25 miles. I often wonder what would have happened if I simply shot him and claimed an aggressive action within the rules of engagement. North Indian Ocean. Nobody would have known Glad I didn't, 'cause I'm a good guy. I'm glad you didn't because they probably would have strung you up for it. 1 hour ago, Rob's House said: I'm kinda hot for Iranian chicks. I've noticed they like to refer to themselves as 'Persian'. At least the rich, Americanized type do. Edited January 4, 2020 by KD in CA
3rdnlng Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Rob's House said: I'm kinda hot for Iranian chicks. Phew. I'm glad I went back and read that again.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 ...oh well...one for the "good guys"........sorry poet......... Brett Velicovich on the drone that took down Soleimani: 'You only get one shot' By Julia Musto | Fox News You only get "one shot" while taking down a target like Iranian General Qassem Soleimani, drone expert Brett Velicovich said Saturday. Appearing on "America's News HQ: Weekend" with host Ed Henry, Velicovich -- who once tracked Soleimani's movements -- said that the drone strike on Soleimani was a " forceful reminder that the Iranians can no longer attack Americans with impunity, [as well as] that the U.S. government can retaliate with a wide variety of options that are both devastating actions that are short of war." "Thanks to President Trump's decisive action, we are able to use one of the tools within the government's arsenal to strike and to strike Soleimani with precision," he added. https://www.foxnews.com/media/brett-velicovich-qassem-soleimani-drone-strike-iran
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 11 hours ago, Rob's House said: I'm kinda hot for Iranian chicks. Smokin. 1
/dev/null Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Smokin. Is that the Sith cult on Exogel from Rise of Skywalker?
4merper4mer Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 Wow the news is disgusting. One dead thug and they're happy to show anti-American protests from Iran. They barely ever discuss the protests against that regime. Next up we have Jane Fonda calling this a war for oil and they run with that? Schumer whining. He wasn't notified? What a load.
row_33 Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 This will not be a lame duck second term no sir-reeeeeeee Bobs yer uncle
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