John Adams Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, GG said: Attacking a military base and killing a US citizen and then ordering a mob to attack, burn and occupy a US embassy isn't enough? I don't think it was morally unjustified but the administration has pointed to one thing that is not true (9-11 linkage) and another that would require proof to be justified (to prevent imminent attack). They are making a mash of justifying an assassination and it's important they do this well and properly, especially since we've got the potential to be dragged more deeply into a big mess. Edited January 8, 2020 by John Adams
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2020 Author Posted January 8, 2020 Ballistic missiles! I hope they shot down many of them, at least.
TH3 Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Well....DT is pathological.....and it would be good if he weren’t.....but here we are
Deranged Rhino Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, TH3 said: Well....DT is pathological.....and it would be good if he weren’t.....but here we are You've gotten every major story wrong the past three years. Go back to your cage and let the adults handle this. 2
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2020 Author Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: You've gotten every major story wrong the past three years. Go back to your cage and let the adults handle this. Yes; the adults who take Trump’s lies at face value
TH3 Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: You've gotten every major story wrong the past three years. Go back to your cage and let the adults handle this. Julie Kelly? I mean she does have bleach blond hair....a communication degree from East Illinois....and is a food writer....guess that makes her qualified in your eyes....LOL 1
RochesterRob Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Tiberius said: No, look at Asad in Syria and Venezuela, these governments don’t get toppled easily There's extremely minimal crude oil in Syria and nothing else. So little incentive for a major power to go into there. The US has plenty of oil and natural gas at the moment and is the only logical end user for Venezuelan crude oil given the distance to other major users versus the Middle East and Asia. Brazil or Argentina might have interest in going into Venezuela but their militaries are almost non existent in terms of achieving foreign objectives.
Cinga Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ballistic missiles! I hope they shot down many of them, at least. They are not ballistic by definition, settle down kids.... 1
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2020 Author Posted January 8, 2020 Sen ***** just said that we don’t have missile defenses at the bases that were attacked. 2 minutes ago, Cinga said: They are not ballistic by definition, settle down kids.... Lol, ok
Deranged Rhino Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, TH3 said: Julie Kelly? I mean she does have bleach blond hair....a communication degree from East Illinois....and is a food writer....guess that makes her qualified in your eyes....LOL Quick. Name a source you use that didn't lie to your face for three years about Trump Russia. Just one. Go...
B-Man Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, TH3 said: Julie Kelly? I mean she does have bleach blond hair....a communication degree from East Illinois....and is a food writer....guess that makes her qualified in your eyes....LOL a (typically) inept and dishonest reply from TH3. She has more credentials than you mentioned certainly much more than you and now back to the “WAR”. ? . 1
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, dubs said: Yet according the the NYT Trump might institute the draft because we killed this revered Iranian “official”. That's crazy. 47 minutes ago, Cinga said: They are not ballistic by definition, settle down kids.... You...don't actually know what "ballistic" means, do you?
B-Man Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, DC Tom said: That's crazy. He said “according to the NYT” ? . 1
GG Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, John Adams said: I don't think it was morally unjustified but the administration has pointed to one thing that is not true (9-11 linkage) and another that would require proof to be justified (to prevent imminent attack). They are making a mash of justifying an assassination and it's important they do this well and properly, especially since we've got the potential to be dragged more deeply into a big mess. There is linkage to 9/11 in that Iran allowed Al Queda to cross their border when the US was hunting them down. There were reports that Zawahiri was detained in Tehran, but I think that was proven false. In any event, Iran let Queda and the 9/11 planners go to Pakistan, even though they are "sworn" enemies.
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, B-Man said: He said “according to the NYT” ? . Yes, I know. Redundancy can be pretty redundant sometimes.
CoudyBills Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Ballistic missiles! I hope they shot down many of them, at least. Has there been any confirmation that they took any out at all before they hit? I certainly hope so too. Oh, and keep warm in your bum hut Tibs.
Cinga Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, DC Tom said: That's crazy. You...don't actually know what "ballistic" means, do you? WTF are you talking about? Are you calling a simple rocket or cruise missile ballistic?
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, GG said: There is linkage to 9/11 in that Iran allowed Al Queda to cross their border when the US was hunting them down. There were reports that Zawahiri was detained in Tehran, but I think that was proven false. In any event, Iran let Queda and the 9/11 planners go to Pakistan, even though they are "sworn" enemies. Iran cooperated closely with US intelligence after 9/11, in no small part because Iran was already at war with Afghanistan, as the Taliban had a nasty habit of killing Iranian diplomats, which kind-of torqued them off. Maybe they allowed transit before 9/11 - doubtful - but if they did, they've assuaged their guilt.
GG Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Iran cooperated closely with US intelligence after 9/11, in no small part because Iran was already at war with Afghanistan, as the Taliban had a nasty habit of killing Iranian diplomats, which kind-of torqued them off. Maybe they allowed transit before 9/11 - doubtful - but if they did, they've assuaged their guilt. According to this guy, there were some Queda in Iran post 9/11. There was probably some passage through Iran pre-9/11, especially after the Africa embassy bombings.
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