MiltonWaddams Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 12:38 AM, Chaos said: Clearly the first step the Browns need to take, is to visit Two Bills Drive and find out what a random bunch of Bills fans think they should do. Once they get that insight, things should flow smoothly from there. Expand Where I find offence is in the word “random”. We are the most educated and experienced group of fans known to the internet. So far from “random”.
wppete Posted January 2, 2020 Author Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 12:46 AM, stevewin said: Expand What a disgrace that guy was. 2
Floydboy12 Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 12:38 AM, Chaos said: Clearly the first step the Browns need to take, is to visit Two Bills Drive and find out what a random bunch of Bills fans think they should do. Once they get that insight, things should flow smoothly from there. Expand Could it really be worse than their results since the franchise returned to Cleveland?
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 Maybe the Browns could hire this "genius"... he fits right in.
Doc Brown Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 3:02 PM, MAJBobby said: Expand I was wondering what Kevin O'Connell was up to after he got booted as the channel 2 weatherman. On 1/2/2020 at 2:10 AM, wppete said: What a disgrace that guy was. Expand The franchise is still here when we could've lost it in '98 and '14. He was at least decent at selling hope. 1
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 I think Doug might be feeling a little sense of urgency 2
first_and_ten Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:20 AM, Buffalo Barbarian said: I think Doug might be feeling a little sense of urgency Expand Whose not sooooooo glad this idiot jumped ship? Imagine where we would be if he had stayed. 1
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:36 AM, first_and_ten said: Whose not sooooooo glad this idiot jumped ship? Imagine where we would be if he had stayed. Expand Right i was pissed at the time but we couldn't have it any better right now. 1
GunnerBill Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:36 AM, first_and_ten said: Whose not sooooooo glad this idiot jumped ship? Imagine where we would be if he had stayed. Expand I think we might have made the playoffs two years earlier although the caveat to that is I have no idea who the QB was going to be. But he had that team bought in, playing hard and competing every week. And there was talent there. Rex on the other hand was a clown show. But McDermott is the right guy for this team and maybe if Doug stayed he never arrives and well.... I'm not a big believer in fate but who knows? 1
4merper4mer Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 9:55 AM, GunnerBill said: I think we might have made the playoffs two years earlier although the caveat to that is I have no idea who the QB was going to be. But he had that team bought in, playing hard and competing every week. And there was talent there. Rex on the other hand was a clown show. But McDermott is the right guy for this team and maybe if Doug stayed he never arrives and well.... I'm not a big believer in fate but who knows? Expand Marrone's offense was atrocious, he wanted all the power and was constantly getting into beefs. Rex was a bad choice but Marrone was going nowhere which is exactly where he is going in Jax. 1
GunnerBill Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 11:10 AM, 4merper4mer said: Marrone's offense was atrocious, he wanted all the power and was constantly getting into beefs. Rex was a bad choice but Marrone was going nowhere which is exactly where he is going in Jax. Expand But he did go to an AFCCG. Marrone is an arse and we are better off without him. But do I think he'd have done a better job in 2015 and 2016 than Rex Ryan? 100% without any single doubt. And that 2015 roster was properly talented and held back by atrocious coaching. 4
4merper4mer Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 12:05 PM, GunnerBill said: But he did go to an AFCCG. Marrone is an arse and we are better off without him. But do I think he'd have done a better job in 2015 and 2016 than Rex Ryan? 100% without any single doubt. And that 2015 roster was properly talented and held back by atrocious coaching. Expand I'm not saying Rex did a better job than anyone else could have done. He tore down what what a terrific defense. The offense did improve a bit. I'm saying Marrone was done here. There were many bridges burned and he was past his peak. He made a power play and lost. I agree we made a mistake hiring Rex, although I admit at the time I liked it, but Marrone staying would have been bad too.
GunnerBill Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 12:10 PM, 4merper4mer said: I'm not saying Rex did a better job than anyone else could have done. He tore down what what a terrific defense. The offense did improve a bit. I'm saying Marrone was done here. There were many bridges burned and he was past his peak. He made a power play and lost. I agree we made a mistake hiring Rex, although I admit at the time I liked it, but Marrone staying would have been bad too. Expand Ultimately we will never know. But I think Marrone would have done okay for a couple more years. Certainly better than Rex did and that 2015 team had playoff level talent. I knew Rex was a mistake the moment we hired him. 2
Nanker Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 12:15 PM, GunnerBill said: Ultimately we will never know. But I think Marrone would have done okay for a couple more years. Certainly better than Rex did and that 2015 team had playoff level talent. I knew Rex was a mistake the moment we hired him. Expand And that was confirmed to all when he proudly showed up sporting his specially painted truck in The Bills colors... with the logo facing BACKWARDS! 1
ALF Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 9:10 PM, Mr. WEO said: A scout becoming a GM? Hmmm....what could go wrong? Expand Yep Whaley was a mistake , he worked for the Steelers as a pro personnel coordinator. I want the best college scout in the NFL. To pry him away from another team takes a job advancement and big pay raise. Then have a real executive actually have the duties of GM. jmo
GunnerBill Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 1:48 PM, ALF said: Yep Whaley was a mistake , he worked for the Steelers as a pro personnel coordinator. I want the best college scout in the NFL. To pry him away from another team takes a job advancement and big pay raise. Then have a real executive actually have the duties of GM. jmo Expand Teams are not required to release a scout for an interview if he does not have actual personnel control. You can't just hire a scout away from another team by giving him the GM title and then get someone else to do the job.
Mr. WEO Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 1:48 PM, ALF said: Yep Whaley was a mistake , he worked for the Steelers as a pro personnel coordinator. I want the best college scout in the NFL. To pry him away from another team takes a job advancement and big pay raise. Then have a real executive actually have the duties of GM. jmo Expand It was a mistake repeated twice in a row by the Bills
ALF Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 2:10 PM, Mr. WEO said: It was a mistake repeated twice in a row by the Bills Expand I was thinking more about Bill Polian's roots
Gugny Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 12:15 PM, GunnerBill said: Ultimately we will never know. But I think Marrone would have done okay for a couple more years. Certainly better than Rex did and that 2015 team had playoff level talent. I knew Rex was a mistake the moment we hired him. Expand I have always thought that the Marrone/Whaley Bills were a QB away from being a powerhouse. 1
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