class_of_2012 Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28370100/barnwell-2019-nfl-awards-ballot-picks-mvp-best-rookies-more Executive of the Year: 1. Brandon Beane (Bills) 2. Eric DeCost (Ravens) 3. John Lynch (49ers) Coach of the Year: 1. John Harbaugh (Ravens) 2. Sean Payton (Saints) 3. Bill Belichick (Patriots) Defensive Rookie of the Year: 1. Nick Bosa (DE, 49ers) 2. Josh Allen (DE, Jaguars) 3. Devin Bush (ILB, Steelers) Offensive Rookie of the Year: 1. A.J. Brown (WR, Titans) 2. Kyler Murray (QB, Cardinals) 3. Josh Jacobs (RB, Raiders) Defensive Player of the Year: 1. Stephon Gillmore (CB, Patriots) 2. Aaron Donald (DT, Rams) 3. Minkah Fitzpatrick (S, Steelers) Offensive Player of the Year: 1. Michael Thomas (WR, Saints) 2. Christian McCaffrey (RB, Panthers) 3. George Kittle (TE, 49ers) MVP: 1. Lamar Jackson (QB, Ravens) 2. Russell Wilson (QB, Seahawks) 3. Patrick Mahomes (QB, Chiefs) But San Francisco 49ers reporter Eric Ting objected strongly, writing this: https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/season-award-list-snubs-Kyle-Shanahan-Nick-Bosa-14934551.php [short excerpt] "Barnwell limits this category to moves made in 2019, and John Lynch had an incredible 2019 as far as player acquisition goes. Nick Bosa, Deebo Samuel, Dee Ford, Emmanuel Sanders, Kwon Alexander and Tevin Coleman were not in Santa Clara in 2018, and all played significant roles in the team's remarkable turnaround. According to Barnwell however, Lynch had just the third-best offseason in the NFL. Ahead of Lynch was Eric DeCosta of the Baltimore Ravens, who installed Greg Roman as offensive coordinator, and brought in Mark Ingram, Earl Thomas, Marquise Brown and Marcus Peters. Fair enough, but Ravens fans and 49ers fans would both be annoyed to learn that Barnwell gave the top spot in this category to Brandon Beane of the Buffalo Bills. Barnwell gushes over the Bills' 2019 draft class that includes of Ed Oliver, Cody Ford (whom Barnwell concedes has "struggled a bit" this season), Devin Singletary, and Dawson Knox. Barnwell also cites the low-cost signings of Cole Beasley and and John Brown at receiver, as well as other under-the-radar moves at offensive line. Beane had a nice offseason to propel Buffalo back into the playoffs, but it's hard to say the work he did in 2019 was more impressive than the heavy lifting undertaken by Lynch and DeCosta, especially as a large portion of the Bills' core (Josh Allen, Tre'Davious White, Tremaine Edmunds, etc.) was already in place prior to 2019." Edited December 28, 2019 by class_of_2012 2 1 1
Magox Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 Not every move he has made has been great but on balance he has been one of the best GM’s in the league since he joined the Bills. 4
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 Surely the best for the Bills since Polian. 2
Utah John Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 No single person can fix problems alone. With the wrong coach in Buffalo, Beane's moves wouldn't look so good. If a couple of the FAs Beane brought in had simply been injured, which can happen to anyone, he wouldn't look so good. We're fortunate for the success the team has had and the foundation for the future that's been laid. That's all you can ask for, and Beane has delivered. I get the argument from SF, which was a truly bad team only a couple of seasons ago. They were fortunate and smart enough to get Jimmy G from the Patriots, which is probably something Belichick would never have done with Buffalo. They got Brady-level lucky with their drafting of Kittle, who is amazing. The thing is, let's see how Buffalo and SF fare going into the future. The Bills will lose some veteran leadership in the offseason and will rely on other players to step forward. I think the people to do that are in place so I'm very optimistic.
billsbackto81 Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 How is Chandler Jones not in the conversation for DPOY? And not having McDermott at least at #3 is head scratching, or am I just a homer? 3 1
Rico Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: Surely the best for the Bills since Polian. Beane is a genius. 1
Troll Toll Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 33 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: How is Chandler Jones not in the conversation for DPOY? And not having McDermott at least at #3 is head scratching, or am I just a homer? I would say homer on this one. I know some have given him Coach of the Year buzz lately, but would you really rather have him as your coach than the other 3? What about the job Vrabel has done? Personally, I think these awards should be done after the Super Bowl. If McClappy puts a SB run together then you would hear no argument from me for that award.
Westside Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: I would say homer on this one. I know some have given him Coach of the Year buzz lately, but would you really rather have him as your coach than the other 3? What about the job Vrabel has done? Personally, I think these awards should be done after the Super Bowl. If McClappy puts a SB run together then you would hear no argument from me for that award. How many superbowls has Vrabel won as a coach?
Troll Toll Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, westside2 said: How many superbowls has Vrabel won as a coach? Is what McDermott has done so far this season any more impressive than what Vrabel has done? I don’t think Vrabel should be in top 3 either.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) In terms of moves this offseason, rebuilt the OL and added our top 2 WR'S and TES this offseason. I'de have to add the Packers GM. I don't know who it is without looking but he added Preston Smith and ZaDarius Smith in one offseason. I'de love to see a coordinator win coach of the year one of these years. I mean they are coaches. Greg Roman is by far the coach of the year IMO. Edited December 29, 2019 by Buffalo_Stampede
ColoradoBills Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Utah John said: No single person can fix problems alone. With the wrong coach in Buffalo, Beane's moves wouldn't look so good. If a couple of the FAs Beane brought in had simply been injured, which can happen to anyone, he wouldn't look so good. We're fortunate for the success the team has had and the foundation for the future that's been laid. That's all you can ask for, and Beane has delivered. I get the argument from SF, which was a truly bad team only a couple of seasons ago. They were fortunate and smart enough to get Jimmy G from the Patriots, which is probably something Belichick would never have done with Buffalo. They got Brady-level lucky with their drafting of Kittle, who is amazing. The thing is, let's see how Buffalo and SF fare going into the future. The Bills will lose some veteran leadership in the offseason and will rely on other players to step forward. I think the people to do that are in place so I'm very optimistic. Your posts never disappoint. Rumors have it that Marrone will be available soon. 1
RyanC883 Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said: How is Chandler Jones not in the conversation for DPOY? And not having McDermott at least at #3 is head scratching, or am I just a homer? Chandler Jones gets forgotten being in Arizona. I'd love to see him on the Bills.
Phil The Thrill Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Magox said: Not every move he has made has been great but on balance he has been one of the best GM’s in the league since he joined the Bills. what moves have been bad? Also GM has an accuracy of 100%?
Coach Tuesday Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 Too early for these accolades - they should wait until after the season. But Eric DeCosta basically rebuilt his roster in one offseason to feature a unique offense built around a single player, and they may win the Lombardi. He’d have my vote for sure.
mykidsdad Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 How McDermitt didn't make the top three is asinine. Did more with less in every sense of the word.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 9 hours ago, class_of_2012 said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28370100/barnwell-2019-nfl-awards-ballot-picks-mvp-best-rookies-more Executive of the Year: 1. Brandon Beane (Bills) 2. Eric DeCost (Ravens) 3. John Lynch (49ers) Coach of the Year: 1. John Harbaugh (Ravens) 2. Sean Payton (Saints) 3. Bill Belichick (Patriots) Defensive Rookie of the Year: 1. Nick Bosa (DE, 49ers) 2. Josh Allen (DE, Jaguars) 3. Devin Bush (ILB, Steelers) Offensive Rookie of the Year: 1. A.J. Brown (WR, Titans) 2. Kyler Murray (QB, Cardinals) 3. Josh Jacobs (RB, Raiders) Defensive Player of the Year: 1. Stephon Gillmore (CB, Patriots) 2. Aaron Donald (DT, Rams) 3. Minkah Fitzpatrick (S, Steelers) Offensive Player of the Year: 1. Michael Thomas (WR, Saints) 2. Christian McCaffrey (RB, Panthers) 3. George Kittle (TE, 49ers) MVP: 1. Lamar Jackson (QB, Ravens) 2. Russell Wilson (QB, Seahawks) 3. Patrick Mahomes (QB, Chiefs) But San Francisco 49ers reporter Eric Ting objected strongly, writing this: https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/season-award-list-snubs-Kyle-Shanahan-Nick-Bosa-14934551.php [short excerpt] "Barnwell limits this category to moves made in 2019, and John Lynch had an incredible 2019 as far as player acquisition goes. Nick Bosa, Deebo Samuel, Dee Ford, Emmanuel Sanders, Kwon Alexander and Tevin Coleman were not in Santa Clara in 2018, and all played significant roles in the team's remarkable turnaround. According to Barnwell however, Lynch had just the third-best offseason in the NFL. Ahead of Lynch was Eric DeCosta of the Baltimore Ravens, who installed Greg Roman as offensive coordinator, and brought in Mark Ingram, Earl Thomas, Marquise Brown and Marcus Peters. Fair enough, but Ravens fans and 49ers fans would both be annoyed to learn that Barnwell gave the top spot in this category to Brandon Beane of the Buffalo Bills. Barnwell gushes over the Bills' 2019 draft class that includes of Ed Oliver, Cody Ford (whom Barnwell concedes has "struggled a bit" this season), Devin Singletary, and Dawson Knox. Barnwell also cites the low-cost signings of Cole Beasley and and John Brown at receiver, as well as other under-the-radar moves at offensive line. Beane had a nice offseason to propel Buffalo back into the playoffs, but it's hard to say the work he did in 2019 was more impressive than the heavy lifting undertaken by Lynch and DeCosta, especially as a large portion of the Bills' core (Josh Allen, Tre'Davious White, Tremaine Edmunds, etc.) was already in place prior to 2019." eat those sour grapes Ting. 7 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: How is Chandler Jones not in the conversation for DPOY? And not having McDermott at least at #3 is head scratching, or am I just a homer? Haven't seen Chandler play in awhile, honestly didn't know if he was still in the league. Did he really play this good this year?
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Troll Toll said: I would say homer on this one. I know some have given him Coach of the Year buzz lately, but would you really rather have him as your coach than the other 3? What about the job Vrabel has done? Personally, I think these awards should be done after the Super Bowl. If McClappy puts a SB run together then you would hear no argument from me for that award. are you serious?? McDermott is more than some game manager on the sidelines. He transformed the entire culture and structure of this organization and even influenced how the Pegulas handle the Sabres. Belly is the goat but also a cheat and no one likes playing there, once the winning goes down they will have a hard time getting and keeping players, when they collapse its going to be colossal. McDermott is the best coach for this team and is going to keep us contenders for a long time. Edited December 29, 2019 by Buffalo Barbarian 3 1
Captain Murica Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: eat those sour grapes Ting. Haven't seen Chandler play in awhile, honestly didn't know if he was still in the league. Did he really play this good this year? 19 sacks and 8 FF this year 1
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