whatdrought Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, 32ABBA said: "Impossible" pfft. It's not hard to argue that the Bills don't need to add him...they are better than the Rams right now, without him. And spending the money somewhere else surely has merit as an argument. Donald is considered a selfish player, that neglects the run and his gaps, in order to get sacks. I think sacks are overrated. Woods would be a nice, but I doubt he would provide much more than what we already have. I think finding a WR that was at least a notch better would be the right way to approach it. Again, it might not be the best decision- but you can’t say adding a Hall or famer who is still playing like it is a 100% mistake. Where are you getting that idea from? Who? Where from?
Prickly Pete Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, Mojo44 said: Can you support this depiction of Donald with some hard empirical evidence that is not refutable. Otherwise it is the worst kind of hearsay. If that’s the case I would not be for the deal. But, my previous comment stands as true. For a single first round draft pick he would not break the bank. The Bills are not going to seriously pursue Donald. "Hard empirical evidence"... about his attitude? https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2019/07/16/nfl-rams-run-defense-pro-football-focus-ranking/ Their defense has ranked near the bottom of the league the past couple years, and is currently 23rd.
John from Riverside Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 I think except for paying our own guys I am done allocating resources to the defense We need to start hard court pressing offensive playmakers......we need at guys with size and speed....at least 2 WR's that can actually start which means we probably need to do what we did with the O line......bring in more then actually fit on the team. 1
Prickly Pete Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Again, it might not be the best decision- but you can’t say adding a Hall or famer who is still playing like it is a 100% mistake. Where are you getting that idea from? Who? Where from? I live in Los Angeles, and it is often brought up on the local shows. Woods? finding another WR's that is better? Where, Who? Impossible! IDFKnow. We'll see when the season is over, and when the draft and free agency are going. Point is, I don't believe he would offer much of an improvement, if any. And again...they aren't going to pursue him. He is done with Buffalo. Edited December 23, 2019 by 32ABBA
whatdrought Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 Just now, 32ABBA said: I live in Los Angeles, and it is often brought up on the local shows. Okay. I’ll take your word for it, but that source doesn’t convince me.
Prickly Pete Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Okay. I’ll take your word for it, but that source doesn’t convince me. Fine. Nothing about the way the Bills are currently run, suggests they will pursue Donald, so I don't really give a *****.
mannc Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: We learned that "mistake" big time the last time we traded 2 1st round picks for a defensive player-all it did was help us win 4 straight AFC championships. Now maybe if we had our 1988 & 1989 1st rounders instead of Bennett we might have won the Super Bowl once, but I think the trade worked out quite well for the Bills. Bennett was 21-years old. Donald is going to be 29 before 2020 season and is the highest paid defensive player in the league. And that was more than 30 years ago. 3 1
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 Don't he and Oliver play the same position? Wouldn't we be way too undersized with them as our starting DTs?
dave mcbride Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Wait, there are really people that don't want the best defensive player in football? Serious question - do you worry that he's about to enter his decline years, and that he's never going to be as good as he was in 2018? Edited December 23, 2019 by dave mcbride 2
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 52 minutes ago, wppete said: No thanks... I absolutely Oliver. But it is looney tunes to not trade for possibly the best defensive player in the nfl because of Oliver and Phillips. Straight crazy. that said, this is stupid. He’s not going anywhere. Stupid early offseason talk that will end up being nothing.
whatdrought Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, 32ABBA said: Fine. Nothing about the way the Bills are currently run, suggests they will pursue Donald, so I don't really give a *****. I promise you that if Aaron Donald is on the market; they’re calling on a price check.
wppete Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: I absolutely Oliver. But it is looney tunes to not trade for possibly the best defensive player in the nfl because of Oliver and Phillips. Straight crazy. that said, this is stupid. He’s not going anywhere. Stupid early offseason talk that will end up being nothing. $25 million on a DT. No thanks.
LabattBlue Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 So the Bills can get Donald and JuJu...how about Kittle while they are at it...rumor has it, Shanahan hates productive TE's 2
DrDawkinstein Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I promise you that if Aaron Donald is on the market; they’re calling on a price check. Well of course, because Beane is good like that. But they still wont pursue him once that price check comes back.
thebandit27 Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Serious question - do you worry that he's about to enter his decline years, and that he's never going to be as good as he was in 2018? Sure. There's always a risk. But I'm more afraid of not winning a Super Bowl before I have to pay my QB 1
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: So the Bills can get Donald and JuJu...how about Kittle while they are at it...rumor has it, Shanahan hates productive TE's Word on the street is the Pack are sick of Rodgers’ diva attitude. Could be a solid backup mentor to Allen. 2 2
billsfan_34 Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Dude has an annual cap hit of $25M/season. At a position of depth and strength for us. Lol, no. Wisdom right here! I am with ya- too steep lets resign Jordan Phillips, Shaq, and go after an edge rusher 8 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Word on the street is the Pack are sick of Rodgers’ diva attitude. Could be a solid backup mentor to Allen. Wait what? Rodgers starts somewhere or retires I doubt he takes a backseat.
BADOLBILZ Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: You've got the cap room to trade for Donald and go get a WR1 this offseason. Plus the Rams will eat Donald's entire SB, so that helps. I just think you've got your QB on a cheap deal through the end of the 2021 season. Time to go for it IMO. It makes sense by the numbers as well. McBeane had 4 first round picks in a 3 year span and if they continue to all play well they will all need to get paid in a very close window. What you'd prefer not to have are a lot of guaranteed dollars committed long term that will make it difficult to do so. And trading a first round pick gives you a welcome break from that extension pressure 4-5 years down the road...............while giving you potentially very high end production between now and when that 2020 first rounder came up for their 5th year option/free agency decision. Donald would give you a proven superstar player now(with money you could walk away from) and allow you to pass on both Shaq and Phillips. 3
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 21 minutes ago, wppete said: $25 million on a DT. No thanks. I mean I generally agree. But you don’t at least explore getting the best defensive player in the nfl because you have Oliver and Phillips. It’s not going to happen but this is the Bills SB window.
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