The three primary goals vs the *Patriots

[Cripple Creek]

16 hours ago, Simon said:

The Bills knew darned well that game had virtually no meaning to them other than the potential to be a nuisance to the *Pats. They're the #5 seed and that's the way it was going to be regardless of what happened on Saturday. With that in mind I think they entered that game wanting to accomplish three things:

 

1) Nobody gets hurt

2) Don't put anything on tape

3) Don't turn the ball over on offense, play some bendy defense to shorten the game and if they're hanging around late, see if 4thqrtr Josh can steal a game you have no business winning.

 

How did it go?

 

1) Aside from Morse with a minor gimp late and Allen continuing to take a couple more shots than he needs to, they got it right. Mission Accomplished

2) I wish they hadn't kept going back to their TE's when they needed a play; that might be the only area where the *Pats defense doesn't excel and I'd have rather they kept that stuff completely out of the gameplan in case they see these guys again in 3 weeks. And Daboll needs to knock off the gambit where he's setting up a play by going off-tackle to the same side on the previous down; if it's getting predictable to some guy sitting at home on his couch, a smart backer is going to take one away in the redzone in a playoff game when he tries it again. So knock it off, Brian. But for the most part they got this one right too. Mission Accomplished

3) They didn't turn it over, they shortened the game and kept it close late and 4th qrtr Josh was about 6" from giving them a shot at a 2pt conversion to steal a game they had no business winning. Mission Accomplished

 

I don't think anybody in the locker was crying in their beers after that game, and I don't think anybody around here needs to be either.

In fact, I wouldn't be stunned to see the exact same "gameplan" next week. If the Bills come out half-stepping and the game vs the Jets turns out to be a loss that looks suspiciously similar to the one they took yesterday, I'm not going to worry about it and neither should you.

 

McDermott tell you this over croissants?

[fansince88]

2 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

so you feel the Bills gave less than their best in this meaningless game?

 

you watched the last 5 minutes of the game shrugging it all off because it was meaningless?

 

uh huh.....

 

Ok, I agreed with Simon. @Simon, is this what you were saying? I dont belive you were but if what row-33 is saying you said then I no longer agree with you. 

 

Of course that isn't what Im saying. I watched a team compete. They realized they had little to gain from winning this game and played to not get beat. I dont think they were crying in their beers and I think the coaching staff is already planning the playoffs. They may have even made the Pats put the tape together they needed. Possibly, and this is a stretch, McD did the whole game as he does with teams all year the first drive. Sits back to see what they got planned and then attack that plan. Possibly that is what this game was all about. Simple as this. If we play crazy enough to get to the AFC Championship then the Pats or the Ravens will be their opponent. 

[dave mcbride]

17 hours ago, Simon said:

The Bills knew darned well that game had virtually no meaning to them other than the potential to be a nuisance to the *Pats. They're the #5 seed and that's the way it was going to be regardless of what happened on Saturday. With that in mind I think they entered that game wanting to accomplish three things:

 

1) Nobody gets hurt

2) Don't put anything on tape

3) Don't turn the ball over on offense, play some bendy defense to shorten the game and if they're hanging around late, see if 4thqrtr Josh can steal a game you have no business winning.

 

How did it go?

 

1) Aside from Morse with a minor gimp late and Allen continuing to take a couple more shots than he needs to, they got it right. Mission Accomplished

2) I wish they hadn't kept going back to their TE's when they needed a play; that might be the only area where the *Pats defense doesn't excel and I'd have rather they kept that stuff completely out of the gameplan in case they see these guys again in 3 weeks. And Daboll needs to knock off the gambit where he's setting up a play by going off-tackle to the same side on the previous down; if it's getting predictable to some guy sitting at home on his couch, a smart backer is going to take one away in the redzone in a playoff game when he tries it again. So knock it off, Brian. But for the most part they got this one right too. Mission Accomplished

3) They didn't turn it over, they shortened the game and kept it close late and 4th qrtr Josh was about 6" from giving them a shot at a 2pt conversion to steal a game they had no business winning. Mission Accomplished

 

I don't think anybody in the locker was crying in their beers after that game, and I don't think anybody around here needs to be either.

In fact, I wouldn't be stunned to see the exact same "gameplan" next week. If the Bills come out half-stepping and the game vs the Jets turns out to be a loss that looks suspiciously similar to the one they took yesterday, I'm not going to worry about it and neither should you.

 

Nothing about the need for Cole Beasley to have a rebound game?? Mission Accomplished ()

[Augie]

I’m sure we wanted to win for Obvious reasons. They are pros. But........would you rather win, while seeing Josh or Tre getting hurt? Of course not. I’d like to build some confidence and reverse the trend against the Cheaters. I would also have LOVED any combination of events that would have taken a bye and/or home field from them. That didn’t happen, we hung tough against them twice, and hopefully next year we get over the hump and beat them twice. 

 

Let’s hope we stay healthy against the Jets, and get hot in the playoffs! 

[row_33]

lost:  Mission Accomplished

 

yay!

 

[njbuff]

Ok, OP.................

 

So, you think the Bills have some grand master plan in store if they meet the Pats again when it surely is for real?

 

I am just of the belief that the Bills will NEVER beat the Pats again until I actually see it happen.

 

I might go blind before I see the Bills ACTUALLY beating the Pats.

[GoFlamesGo]

McD not announcing if his starters will play in week 17 vs jets. The same guy who waited until Saturday to tell you who is playing QB? Have we been watching this guy for 3 years now? And you all think he would show his best defensive game plan in a meaningless game vs the Patriots?

 

Please....

[DuckyBoys]

I sincerely hope we can face them again this year .  Brady should give them enough bulletin material with his smug mouth.

[Success]

McD is not 0-6 against BB.  

 

It has to be a top priority to beat that team - always, every time.  

[Mr. WEO]

Teams seeded ahead of Bills vs. NE: 3-0. 
 

Bills vs NE:  0-2.

 

was that their mission?

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Ok, lets break this down just for fun...

How do you prevent injuries by keeping your tired defense on the field for long stretches of the game?

What could they possibly not put on tape? McD has been running this defense for no less than 6 years. They have not done anything new on defense all year. The only thing that changes from game to game is if Tre gets the #1WR and how much the blitz(Edmunds or a DB typically)

No turnovers and bend but not break defense is how they always play.

 

McD et al got outcoached and the team played poorly. 

 

Winning a road playoff game answers the doubters. Lose and we will debate all year if the Bills were a good team or a product of an easy schedule. 

[atlbillsfan1975]

21 hours ago, row_33 said:

They prepped their best to win

 

they did their best out there

 

it wasn’t good enough 

 

no surprise at all

 

and no chicken little stories about how it didn’t matter, okay?

 

 

 

 

Spoken like a Pats fan.

[Happy]

I would suspect the Bills would have liked a win, but with fundamentals rather than a lot of game planning.  McD made remarks that they didn't do a good job of executing fundamentals, though nothing about coaching could have been better.  The defense was very vanilla, almost to the point of a pre season game and the offense was more uninspiring  than usual...even for Daboll.  I think the OP has it correct; McD is keeping it close to the vest for the playoffs when the games matter again.  Saturday didn't matter a whole lot to the Bills and Sunday vs Jets doesn't matter, either.

[3rdand12]

1 minute ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Spoken like a Pats fan.

I disagree. and poor form by you this time !

 and agree mostly with 33 here
we did not win.
and they are the benchmark for Bills.

we should have won on execution alone. regardless of play call /design etc.
 Not pleased.

Lets us hope we meet them again this season

[atlbillsfan1975]

Just now, 3rdand12 said:

I disagree. and poor form by you this time !

 and agree mostly with 33 here
we did not win.
and they are the benchmark for Bills.

we should have won on execution alone. regardless of play call /design etc.
 Not pleased.

Lets us hope we meet them again this season

Sorry but this poster consistently in every thread sticks up for the Pats. I’ve even asked this poster if he is on some level a Pats fan. He has yet to answer and has ignored the question repeatedly. It’s all fine. I am allowed my opinion based off numerous posts by this poster. I am putting him on ignore because frankly he appears as a wolf in sheep’s clothing. I won’t have to listen to him stick up for Pats cheating, which he has in another thread. 

[3rdand12]

4 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

I would suspect the Bills would have liked a win, but with fundamentals rather than a lot of game planning.  McD made remarks that they didn't do a good job of executing fundamentals, though nothing about coaching could have been better.  The defense was very vanilla, almost to the point of a pre season game and the offense was more uninspiring  than usual...even for Daboll.  I think the OP has it correct; McD is keeping it close to the vest for the playoffs when the games matter again.  Saturday didn't matter a whole lot to the Bills and Sunday vs Jets doesn't matter, either.

I worry you both are assuming Mc Beanes and Co. are trying to to play the Deep Game. That 3d chess some speak of.
its possible 

and to some degree likely. But i do not feel anyone is okay with losing to set up a win.

2 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Sorry but this poster consistently in every thread sticks up for the Pats. I’ve even asked this poster if he is on some level a Pats fan. He has yet to answer and has ignored the question repeatedly. It’s all fine. I am allowed my opinion based off numerous posts by this poster. I am putting him on ignore because frankly he appears as a wolf in sheep’s clothing. I won’t have to listen to him stick up for Pats cheating, which he has in another thread. 

I respect your opinion as always my friend.
 But i feel the counter of "Pats Fan" is not often the best retort.

Cuz Pats fans suck and they know it !

[Happy]

Just now, 3rdand12 said:

I worry you both are assuming Mc Beanes and Co. are trying to to play the Deep Game. That 3d chess some speak of.
its possible 

and to some degree likely. But i do not feel anyone is okay with losing to set up a win.

 

I wouldn't say "deep game" or "3d chess."  I suspect McD doesn't care about beating NE and tipping his hand for the playoffs in a relatively meaningless game where things outside of Buffalo's control would need to happen for the Bills to win the division.  If the situation was that the Bills win and the AFCE is theirs, we would have seen a different game.

[Mojo44]

 The game was far from meaningless!The notion that the coaches accepted  the wild-card slot without any thought of maybe winning the division is a loser’s mentality and I doubt that was the case. And to suggest that the bills played a vanilla game because they did not want to show their hand in the playoffs makes no sense. Hello! This is the 15th out of 16 regular season games. We are not going to suddenly develop a new identity. We are not going to fool anybody with new stuff. Now it just comes down to execution.I don’t buy it. The goal was to win. And it meant a lot for more than one reason to win.

[Rico]

All I know is that if Fitzy beats the Pats this week, I am going to be very pissed now.

[4merper4mer]

On December 22, 2019 at 10:58 PM, Simon said:

The Bills knew darned well that game had virtually no meaning to them other than the potential to be a nuisance to the *Pats. They're the #5 seed and that's the way it was going to be regardless of what happened on Saturday. With that in mind I think they entered that game wanting to accomplish three things:

 

1) Nobody gets hurt

2) Don't put anything on tape

3) Don't turn the ball over on offense, play some bendy defense to shorten the game and if they're hanging around late, see if 4thqrtr Josh can steal a game you have no business winning.

 

How did it go?

 

1) Aside from Morse with a minor gimp late and Allen continuing to take a couple more shots than he needs to, they got it right. Mission Accomplished

2) I wish they hadn't kept going back to their TE's when they needed a play; that might be the only area where the *Pats defense doesn't excel and I'd have rather they kept that stuff completely out of the gameplan in case they see these guys again in 3 weeks. And Daboll needs to knock off the gambit where he's setting up a play by going off-tackle to the same side on the previous down; if it's getting predictable to some guy sitting at home on his couch, a smart backer is going to take one away in the redzone in a playoff game when he tries it again. So knock it off, Brian. But for the most part they got this one right too. Mission Accomplished

3) They didn't turn it over, they shortened the game and kept it close late and 4th qrtr Josh was about 6" from giving them a shot at a 2pt conversion to steal a game they had no business winning. Mission Accomplished

 

I don't think anybody in the locker was crying in their beers after that game, and I don't think anybody around here needs to be either.

In fact, I wouldn't be stunned to see the exact same "gameplan" next week. If the Bills come out half-stepping and the game vs the Jets turns out to be a loss that looks suspiciously similar to the one they took yesterday, I'm not going to worry about it and neither should you.

 

By and large I agree.  For example having Johnson 1-1 on Douchleman for that many plays does not strike me as something that happened by accident or was what we thought was our best option.  There are others.  Oh, and we were two weeks removed from watching the Pats steal defensive signals on national television.