Rock'em Sock'em Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 I think this offense can really roll next year with: AJ Green or comparable WR that can occupy the opponent's #1 CB, catch contested balls, and get a few run after catch long TDs. Derrick Henry or comparable RB to use against the tougher good tackling defenses. Cincinnati's Mixon had 149 yards rushing against NE last week in a game that was not close in the 2nd half. Sometimes the FA market for the bigger backs is affordable, allowing us to use or draft picks for depth. Practice screens and draws and 10 other plays that will consistently beat cover 0. An offseason on the Jugs machine for Knox. We have all the other pieces, more or less. 1
White Linen Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Nice to have a complimentary backer when Gore retires post season. I do not think Yeldon is that guy. Taking nothing away from Singletary. And yes Bills need a number of players yet, especially at Offense why should they trust them ? The Offense that is. work in process. I think they should trust them because at some point you need to. We're getting to and winning the super bowl without the offense coming together. IMO, they had a great opportunity yesterday with virtually nothing to lose. Instead they were only thinking of that particular game and not where the offense needs to be. We'll fizzle out anyway, why not let them go? 1
BillsfanAZ Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 The Bills should see what the Cardinals want for David Johnson. 5th round pick and I would pull the trigger.
BuffaloRebound Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Rock'em Sock'em said: I think this offense can really roll next year with: AJ Green or comparable WR that can occupy the opponent's #1 CB, catch contested balls, and get a few run after catch long TDs. Derrick Henry or comparable RB to use against the tougher good tackling defenses. Cincinnati's Mixon had 149 yards rushing against NE last week in a game that was not close in the 2nd half. Sometimes the FA market for the bigger backs is affordable, allowing us to use or draft picks for depth. Practice screens and draws and 10 other plays that will consistently beat cover 0. An offseason on the Jugs machine for Knox. We have all the other pieces, more or less. Yes to Derrick Henry. Pairing Allen with a dynamic back like Henry is exactly what the doctor ordered. Singletary is decent but scares nobody. Henry is a better signing than a big name WR. 1
SectionC3 Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said: He can run the reps of a one. I too think we need speed to get around the tackles. But not using the pass to the flats or screens who knows? so many times we have seen the HB coming open and Josh just keeps his eyes downfield regardless. Tyrod used to do that too. hmmm. so i am not sure what best fits. Morse is not a Bull , he is finesse. so good hands and some speed might best fit in this Offense. no matter what, Bills had best fix the RT situation asap Morse is very athletic and is one of the few centers who can effectively pull. We should be a better sweep team. I think Spain’s lack of mobility has a little part in that. singletary is a 1 in my view (provided he improves ball security). I wouldn’t mind a 2 with a little juice. Of course, if we got melvin Gordon or Derrick Henry at the right price, I’d be cool with that, too. 35 minutes ago, Rock'em Sock'em said: I think this offense can really roll next year with: AJ Green or comparable WR that can occupy the opponent's #1 CB, catch contested balls, and get a few run after catch long TDs. Derrick Henry or comparable RB to use against the tougher good tackling defenses. Cincinnati's Mixon had 149 yards rushing against NE last week in a game that was not close in the 2nd half. Sometimes the FA market for the bigger backs is affordable, allowing us to use or draft picks for depth. Practice screens and draws and 10 other plays that will consistently beat cover 0. An offseason on the Jugs machine for Knox. We have all the other pieces, more or less. AJ Green is the one FA I would consider paying huge money. The locker room dynamic is extremely important here and I’d worry about giving a newcomer one of the top paychecks. If they go that route, the signee has to have a sterling resume. Green can pull it off.
Estro Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) Couldn't agree more & I've been saying it all year. A young hammer with long speed. Our run game looks a lot better with that type of dude who can handle 8-10 touches a game. And for the record, I'm all for drafting that guy in the middle rounds of this years draft like we did Singletary last year. Just say no to buying a high priced FA RB like Henry or Gordon......a waste of $$$, IMO. Edited December 23, 2019 by Estro
SectionC3 Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Azucho98 said: He doesn't know how to run a screen pass, or use a TE. The guy sucks as an OC. come on. The touchdown to kroft in Pittsburgh was a gorgeous play design. Knox has played pretty well and has pro bowl potential if he can improve his hands. and the screen game? We have big guards. Maybe some middle screens would be in order. But fact is we don’t block screens well (see Spain’s stupid holding penalty against Baltimore) so there’s not a ton of sense in running them.
78thealltimegreat Posted December 23, 2019 Author Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: What is with Bills fans and runningbacks? Singletary has been an absolute beast regardless of size and is more than physical, even the announcers mentioned it many times. IMO we need a tall WR who can catch everything like a Michael Thomas type who will also be great in the redzone. Also we will need to work on the OL and need at least 2 pass rushers. He’s one back you’re relying on a 5’8 barely 200 lbs back to be your whole running game that’s insanity
Protocal69 Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 3 hours ago, BillsfanAZ said: The Bills should see what the Cardinals want for David Johnson. 5th round pick and I would pull the trigger. Great Idea. K.Drake has locked up the job in AZ and Johnson still has juice left in the tank.
GreggTX Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 I agree OP. We are ranked in the top 10 in rushing offense largely because of Allen's scrambling. Our OL is average at best and I'd love to see us sign or draft an elite OT at the very least this offseason. We need a big, physical #1 WR as well. On D, an elite edge rusher, outside and slot corner upgrades and Lorenzo's replacement. We know Josh needs to play a lot better, but the same is true of Edmunds as well.
Thurman#1 Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 8 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: I think Frank Gore is pretty much running on fumes...Motor is great but against teams with really physical front 7s we need that 225lbs bell cow to hammer on these teams Don't see this at all. Not that that would be a bad thing, but teams with hammer backs have played the Pats this year and haven't done especially well. Any back will have problems when the blocking doesn't open holes.
cale Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 I could not agree more. Even if he carries the ball 15 times a game, that can soften things up. We need a back who can open his own running lanes. Even if intermittently.
Solomon Grundy Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 9 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Morse is very athletic and is one of the few centers who can effectively pull. We should be a better sweep team. I think Spain’s lack of mobility has a little part in that. singletary is a 1 in my view (provided he improves ball security). I wouldn’t mind a 2 with a little juice. Of course, if we got melvin Gordon or Derrick Henry at the right price, I’d be cool with that, too. AJ Green is the one FA I would consider paying huge money. The locker room dynamic is extremely important here and I’d worry about giving a newcomer one of the top paychecks. If they go that route, the signee has to have a sterling resume. Green can pull it off. Green is the prize. Draft Taylor, you'd have him on 5 year rookie contract.
ALF Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 Looking forward to the combine and free agency in 2020 already, I can trust Beane and McD
Solomon Grundy Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 11 hours ago, the skycap said: Puts offense over the top!! I'd draft Quintez Cephus (depending on interviews) in draft to learn from Green/Brown.
Solomon Grundy Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) Remember, he's 6'4" Edited December 23, 2019 by the skycap
Bill from NYC Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 13 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Derrick Henry is a FA I think. Derrick is a tremendous player and would become a fan favorite in about 15 seconds. He is also a great kid. When he was at the draft combines he took time out to visit terminally ill children in a hospital. Derrick is probably the most punishing player in football today. I watched every down of his college career and I know all about this kid. He doesn't have THE quickest start but the Bills have a strong OL. After he gets a few steps I have seen players not try all that hard to tackle him. His stiff arm is reminiscent to that of Earl Campbell or even Jim Brown. He is a perfect fit for this team. With Derrick and one of these great wide receivers coming out in the 2020 draft, the Bills would be a Super Bowl contender, if not favorite. Just my long overdue opinion.
Nuncha Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, SectionC3 said: come on. The touchdown to kroft in Pittsburgh was a gorgeous play design. Knox has played pretty well and has pro bowl potential if he can improve his hands. and the screen game? We have big guards. Maybe some middle screens would be in order. But fact is we don’t block screens well (see Spain’s stupid holding penalty against Baltimore) so there’s not a ton of sense in running them. The three consecutive plays for a loss in Pittsburgh in the red zone were brilliant too. How many catches do TE's have on this team? Kroft is here for ?????? His TD in Pittsburgh was his 5th catch of the season! (7 games 5 receptions) How many screen passes do we run to the TE or RB? There is a reason why Daboll offenses were never ranked better than 20th the NFL and other times 30th or worse. He's a bad coordinator. 39 minutes ago, the skycap said: Remember, he's 6'4" 6'4 and the wheels are falling off Edited December 23, 2019 by Azucho98
Nuncha Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 12 hours ago, peterpan said: Where's Karlos Williams when you need him ?!?!?! Toronto, CFL
SectionC3 Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Azucho98 said: The three consecutive plays for a loss in Pittsburgh in the red zone were brilliant too. How many catches do TE's have on this team? Kroft is here for ?????? His TD in Pittsburgh was his 5th catch of the season! (7 games 5 receptions) How many screen passes do we run to the TE or RB? There is a reason why Daboll offenses were never ranked better than 20th the NFL and other times 30th or worse. He's a bad coordinator. 6'4 and the wheels are falling off Kroft got hurt and Knox took his spot. The series you’re referring to in Pittsburgh was all about the HB pass by Gore. The draw on third down was designed to avoid a sack and preserve the FG. setup plays are part of NFL offenses. Look at Pittsburgh’s TD against us. Connor run followed by same look/play fake/throw back to Connor. It’s a way of life against good defenses, and the fact that it didn’t work on one series against Pittsburgh doesn’t mean Daboll is a bad coordinator.
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