SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Sooo...Bills beat Steelers 17 to 10 with Steelers QB chucking 4 picks. This is an obvious sign that the Bills are mediocre and their QB is horrible. The Pats* beat the Bills 16 to 10 with Bills QBs chucking 4 picks. I don’t remember these morons pissing on their wunderkind Brady. Excellent point (you beat me to it) 1
Teddy KGB Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Who's the ahole on the right (the one trying too hard to be funny)? Bomani Jones. He’s a race 24-7 guy. Check it out. Edited December 19, 2019 by Teddy KGB 1
CLTbills Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: This. Lebatard puts on a good show but he’s out of touch. Too rich and too woke and too laissez faire about everything in life. I don't even think he puts on a good show. They talk more about stuff outside of sports than actual sports, and every time I've ever listened to them, every conversation they have on that show goes back to talking about race. You're definitely right on the "too woke" thing.
stony Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 Met Dan in Buffalo a couple months ago. Couldn’t have been more kind. One of my favorites at ESPN. As for their takes on Allen. Whatever. Grab a ticket, get in line. Who cares. 1
Teddy KGB Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, CLTbills said: I don't even think he puts on a good show. They talk more about stuff outside of sports than actual sports, and every time I've ever listened to them, every conversation they have on that show goes back to talking about race. You're definitely right on the "too woke" thing. The radio show is pretty awesome. More you listen the better it gets. 2
The Wiz Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 58 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Right. Anyone who has ever listened to him shouldn't be surprised. My favorite line from one of the other idiots: "If Duck Hodges hadn't thrown all those interceptions, he would have had a better day than Allen" LMFAO... Well, you know what they say about opinions.... So he's saying if Duck was a better QB than Allen, he would have been a better QB than Allen. Can't fault that logic ? 1
stony Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said: The radio show is pretty awesome. More you listen the better it gets. Yeah, I’m obviously in the minority here, but I think it’s good radio. I like the tv show too, when his dads on. 1
Freddie's Dead Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) Bomani Jones has a serious anti-Josh hardon. He's nothing but a bottom feeder, dishing up pabulum for his tiny audience. Dan The Bastard is a Miami fan. 'nuff said. Edited December 19, 2019 by Freddie's Dead
Billsfan1972 Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 If you don't "get" the show, fine, however if not a Bills fan & you look at the last two weeks & 17 points & 290 yards passing, you too would not think much of Allen..... 2
Orlando Buffalo Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 Only watched until they said Jameis is better- at that point they are confusing entertaining for better. Allen is not great yet but he has been above average since week 4. But truly Dan Lebetard does not watch much football and his opinion is about as informed as mine is on soccer.
Marv's Neighbor Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 Didn't see it but don't watch ESPN either.
Teddy KGB Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, stony said: Yeah, I’m obviously in the minority here, but I think it’s good radio. I like the tv show too, when his dads on. Same. I like him and papi and stugotz and mike Ryan. Certain topics he’s gonna whine about but that’s him. Im not too big on Bomani, Spain, Mina etc.
78thealltimegreat Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Start at 6:13. This is some of the most vehement hate for Allen I've seen. Methinks this should find its way to Josh... Absolutely ridiculous! Three of the biggest #######s on ESPN nobody particularly takes an utter bigot like Bomani Jones seriously
Bangarang Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 People still watch these awful shows on ESPN? 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Only watched until they said Jameis is better- at that point they are confusing entertaining for better. Allen is not great yet but he has been above average since week 4. But truly Dan Lebetard does not watch much football and his opinion is about as informed as mine is on soccer. As I said elsewhere: I think some of these guys confuse the point of a football game to be generating fantasy football stats for them. 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: If you don't "get" the show, fine, however if not a Bills fan & you look at the last two weeks & 17 points & 290 yards passing, you too would not think much of Allen..... How did Jackson do against our D? He will be MVP and he had about 60 total yards at half. Not giving credit to Steeler D is dumb.
jimmy10 Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, eball said: I really try not to get riled up over shows like this but those takes were so extreme and so uneducated it shocks me. Where you been? Extreme and uneducated is Peak America 2019. 1 1 2
SoTier Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 I think that too many Bills fans are too sensitive about criticism of Allen in the media. Some of the criticism is justified because Allen doesn't put up great passing stats, and his game still needs considerable work. OTOH, passing stats have become the be-all and end-all for some in the media as well as among some fans --at least partly and maybe mostly -- due to fantasy football, but passing stats alone don't define great QBs. IMO, Allen is already a competent NFL QB who demonstrates both good leadership and clutch play even though his passing stats aren't very good. He not only improved significantly from his rookie season, he's continued to improve as both a passer and a QB over the course of this season. Allen has thrown for 18 TDs and only 9 picks in 2019, and he's run for 9 more. Allen, in only 2 seasons, had already directed 6 4th quarter comebacks and 8 game winning drive. Jameis Winston OTOH has never been a competent NFL QB despite a being a great passer. His poor decision making has regularly cost his team wins. In his five seasons, Winston has thrown for 118 TDs in 70 games -- and 82 INTs. He's led 7 4th quarter comebacks and led 11 game winning drives in 5 seasons. Essentially, Winston is the same QB in Year 5 as he was in Year 2. Even having QB whisperer Bruce Arians as his HC has only helped Winston improve his QB play very marginally -- he's thrown 30 TDs and 24 INTs in 14 games this season. 2
billsfan1959 Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: If you don't "get" the show, fine, however if not a Bills fan & you look at the last two weeks & 17 points & 290 yards passing, you too would not think much of Allen..... You are absolutely right from the perspective of the average fan. Most of us do not watch every game out there and often, make judgements about performances of players from other teams based off highlights and stats. However, if your JOB is to provided commentary on sports and you decide to comment, on a national platform, about a specific player, perhaps you should do a little more indepth analysis prior to making the comments.... 1
78thealltimegreat Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, SoTier said: I think that too many Bills fans are too sensitive about criticism of Allen in the media. Some of the criticism is justified because Allen doesn't put up great passing stats, and his game still needs considerable work. OTOH, passing stats have become the be-all and end-all for some in the media as well as among some fans --at least partly and maybe mostly -- due to fantasy football, but passing stats alone don't define great QBs. IMO, Allen is already a competent NFL QB who demonstrates both good leadership and clutch play even though his passing stats aren't very good. He not only improved significantly from his rookie season, he's continued to improve as both a passer and a QB over the course of this season. Allen has thrown for 18 TDs and only 9 picks in 2019, and he's run for 9 more. Allen, in only 2 seasons, had already directed 6 4th quarter comebacks and 8 game winning drive. Jameis Winston OTOH has never been a competent NFL QB despite a being a great passer. His poor decision making has regularly cost his team wins. In his five seasons, Winston has thrown for 118 TDs in 70 games -- and 82 INTs. He's led 7 4th quarter comebacks and led 11 game winning drives in 5 seasons. Essentially, Winston is the same QB in Year 5 as he was in Year 2. Even having QB whisperer Bruce Arians as his HC has only helped Winston improve his QB play very marginally -- he's thrown 30 TDs and 24 INTs in 14 games this season. Winston also has another problem he kinda gets in trouble off the field about 60 times
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