Dablitzkrieg Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 Hughes is being replaced by Shaq on rushing downs, is what I am noticing.
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 18, 2019 Author Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Rc2catch said: I could be wrong but shaq seems to be lining up a lot more in Hughes spot. And I could also be wrong but he looks like he gets a lot better pass rush from that side. I don’t know the exact snap counts or nothing though. I like the rotations on the line this year. Murphy has been the obvious weak link. Although he has made a few nice plays too. I have faith they are going to want to keep as much continuity as possible on the defense and just sprinkle in a couple new faces. They have stayed quite healthy so far and have really gelled as a unit. There should not be a ton of turnover. As others have said we have a pretty nice roster I would like to think this next offseason is looking to add 2-3 real impact players, and everything else mostly for depth and future replacements. We’re in great shape for this offseason. That was earlier in the year when Lawson was coming off the bench. You are correct they would have him line up opposite the LT. the last month or so Shaq has been playing more but not exclusively opposite the RT.
dave mcbride Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 8 hours ago, Nelius said: The disruption is huge. Same goes for Edmunds. He only has 1.5 sacks but imagine that dude getting anywhere near you. I know there was a play last week (that I can't find) where Edmunds crashed in on Duck untouched, and Hodges just tossed it away like "nope". Those plays don't really hit a lot of stat sheets. This defense can be chaos for QBs right now. And Jerry still has 4.5 sacks so he's contributing. His 10 sack years were on bad teams where he was pretty much the guy, and now he's a piece of the puzzle. You've got Ed Oliver now, Tremaine Edmunds, Jordan Phillips, Shaq Lawson, and then Jerry Hughes still picking up 5-6 sacks a season? That's scary. Um, his 10-sack years came playing across from a still-dominant Mario Williams and a pre-2nd contract Marcel Dareus. The 2014 Bills D was dominant, and the 2013 D was excellent as well, racking up a ton of sacks. Those were his two 10-sack seasons.
Buffalo Junction Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Jay free said: If I'm the GM fellas I call Jerry, Star, Tyler, Trent, Poyer, and yeldon, and tell em all to take this significant pay cut, or get to stepping. i want the young bucks to get some time anyway......Vincent taylor, Darryl Johnson, Jaquan Johnson, ....... Unmatched SOCK???
colin Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 we have a ton of room and the draft. I'd ditch either lawson or murphy (would rather keep shaq, but numbers will be the decider) and maybe go get clowney or a monster in FA. I'd also look at drafting a SAM backer, CB, and could take another flyer late on safety depth (would help w special teams too). for DT i'd keep star and harry and oliver and phillips. if you throw a legit can't be single blocked DE to this front, you are talking about a D that will be talked about for a decade.
whatdrought Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 I think in a lot of ways Phillips and Lawson are benefiting from a lot of A+ work being done by Jerry and Ed O. That Dline is playing like a team within a team and it's been a really great revelation as of late. I think Frazier (or mcd) has really figured out how to manipulate rotations, stunts, looks, etc. to set up the group as a whole for success. That being said, Jerry is a good component of that, but he's not a sack master whose going to dominate by himself and draw doubles all game long. He never really has been. His best seasons came when he was playing beside Kyle, Marcell (before he discovered little debbie), and peak Mario. I wouldn't hate adding a truly dominate DE in the draft or FA, but that's easier said than done.
T master Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 From listening to 1 Bills Live the other day our guy in the know Chris Brown says Hughes has been dealing with a groin issue for the bigger part of the season which could be a good reason why his stats are down but i think the opposition still has to game plan for him . Not to mention his veteran leadership in the locker room !
Solomon Grundy Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 10 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Curious what the board thinks. He has not gotten the sacks or even many negative plays. But when I watch him, he is still very disruptive, wins many of his one on one situations, maintains containment reasonably well, and is holding his own against the run. Overall I think he is still playing at a high level and with Lawson playing opposite him more as of late, the D-line has been more dominant. Thoughts? He has been applying pressure, just need for him to make tackle
Just Joshin' Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Jay free said: If I'm the GM fellas I call Jerry, Star, Tyler, Trent, Poyer, and yeldon, and tell em all to take this significant pay cut, or get to stepping. i want the young bucks to get some time anyway......Vincent taylor, Darryl Johnson, Jaquan Johnson, ....... This can not be serious.
eball Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 10 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: Hughes is the most underrated and misdiagnosed and misunderstood player on this defense and has been for years. Yes, but are you CONCERNED about his play?
NewEra Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 Hughes is a beast. Stout vs the run, disruptive vs the pass and solid dropping into coverage (for a DE). he’ll be back. No question
fan_in_tx Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 12 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Curious what the board thinks. He has not gotten the sacks or even many negative plays. But when I watch him, he is still very disruptive, wins many of his one on one situations, maintains containment reasonably well, and is holding his own against the run. Overall I think he is still playing at a high level and with Lawson playing opposite him more as of late, the D-line has been more dominant. Thoughts? Considering he is held almost every play he rushes the QB I think he is doing great. If he would get a holding call once a season or so then he would be much more effective.
DrDawkinstein Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 12 hours ago, MyDogLuvsPB said: I don't know what financial incentives we have to keep/release Hughes in the offseason, but I hope we re-sign Phillips and try to get a premiere pass rusher in free agency. I don't think Shaq deserves a huge contract from us. I don't think Murphy returns either. 12 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: I think he very possibly could be one of the individuals replaced in the offseason. Could probably replace his production for a lot less Hughes would cost more to cut than to simply keep on the roster next year: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/jerry-hughes-6540/ He has a cap hit of $9.5M if he is on the roster. If we cut him, he costs us $10.8M. He'll be here next year. The year after tho... totally different. 1
Captain_Quint Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Hughes is being replaced by Shaq on rushing downs, is what I am noticing. It works well, too. It gives him a break and allows him to focus on rushing the passer. It's the way alot of the older pass rushers play out the twilight of their careers. I'd love to see him stay for the future and put him in on obvious passing situations. He has a pretty good contract and has been paid already. 1
DrDawkinstein Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 5 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said: There is a reason why he is one of the 3 guys still on the roster from the Rex Ryan years. Doug Marrone* years
PoBills33 Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 I believe I read on here Hughes contract was front loaded and shouldn't cost that much towards the end of his contract. If thats true I say we keep him but still pursue edge rushers on the off season.
MDH Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 12 hours ago, MyDogLuvsPB said: I don't know what financial incentives we have to keep/release Hughes in the offseason, but I hope we re-sign Phillips and try to get a premiere pass rusher in free agency. I don't think Shaq deserves a huge contract from us. I don't think Murphy returns either. Shaq has been the most consistent and best DL this year. Phillips has more splash plays but Shaq is productive and doing his job on pretty much every down, whether he gets noticed or not. The same can’t always be said about Phillips. If the Bills keep only one (and I’m not sure they even keep one) I’d much prefer it to be Shaq.
DrDawkinstein Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, PoBills33 said: I believe I read on here Hughes contract was front loaded and shouldn't cost that much towards the end of his contract. If thats true I say we keep him but still pursue edge rushers on the off season. Pretty evenly distributed. But dead money keeps him on the team next year. Year Age Base Salary Signing Roster Option Workout Cap Hit Dead Cap Yearly Cash 2019 31 $6,800,000 $3,500,000 $1,000,000 $1,500,000 $150,000 $12,950,000 $23,800,000 $14,250,000($14,250,000) 2020 32 $6,650,000 $2,100,000 $500,000 - $250,000 $9,500,000 $10,850,000 $7,400,000($21,650,000) Potential Out: 2021, 2 yr, $21,650,000; $2,100,000 dead cap 2021 33 $6,100,000 $2,100,000 $1,000,000 - $250,000 $9,450,000 $2,100,000 $7,350,000($29,000,000) 2022 34 UFA
wppete Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 I have a feeling he will come alive and go nuts in the playoffs.
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 He’s been completely overrated for years. His bark is way bigger than his bite at this point. Shaq is far away the better player at this point. once we upgrade the Hughes (I’m fine keeping him as depth) and Murphy spots, this will be an elite defense.
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