Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 18, 2019 Author Posted December 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Dude got a lot of love on broadcast for his three tackles Yes, we did a good job protecting Allen this game. Which kind of begs the question why we didn't game plan for better protection against the Ravens.
Stenbar Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yes, we did a good job protecting Allen this game. Which kind of begs the question why we didn't game plan for better protection against the Ravens. I saw the Ravens blitz and the Steelers just rushed the four for the most part. Thats a big reason. Guarantee the Pats come after him.
NoSaint Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Stenbar said: That play should be a penalty. You can't freaking punch someone with the hopes of jarring the ball loose. If that is the case then just start punching the hell out of everyone that has possession. Start drafting MMA fighters to force fumbles. LOL...What a freaking joke. SHould be a unsportsmanlike and a automatic ejection and fine. I know it is not a rule now but going forward they need to change that immediately it’s pretty risky for the defender too, so not like it’ll suddenly happen haphazardly all the time
LSHMEAB Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 Watt did whiff on the ball, but he made significant contact with Allen's arm which could have easily lead to a fumble if not for strength/awareness. I wouldn't say it was amazing or anything like that, but it was solid. Play also makes me think more guys should do what Watt did. You don't see it very often, but a punch seems like a pretty effective method to jar a ball loose. More effective than just slapping or grabbing.
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think Allen turned the ball as they've been coaching "high and tight" so Watt's punch hit his chest protector instead of the ball. I also think he was determined to hang on to the ball. Remember this is the guy that had such a ferocious grip on the ball with two hands that a Dallas defender literally pulled him out of the pile and downfield - by the ball - and he hung on. INteresting. No. Watch the replay. He hits Allen in the chest and then extends down into his groin. He never makes contact with the ball. Allen either by luck or instinct is pulling the ball up and closer to his chest as the punch glances off his chest and heads to his nuts.
Don Otreply Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, WildBills said: The more I watch it the more I don't think he whiffed completely. Josh saw him coming and held onto it somehow. Josh is a strong dude, and a little good timing doesn’t hurt either. Go Bills!!! 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 18, 2019 Author Posted December 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Watch the replay. He hits Allen in the chest and then extends down into his groin. He never makes contact with the ball. Allen either by luck or instinct is pulling the ball up and closer to his chest as the punch glances off his chest and heads to his nuts. I don't think it's luck, I think Allen has been working on his ball security with the RB coach and it's starting to pay off. I think earlier this season that's a sure-fire fumble. Watt tries to scoop the ball out as he pulls his arm back out and Allen is pulled down. Allen holds on hard and uses his left arm to push Watt's scooping arm away.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 The ones that scare me are the fumbles that happen in the pocket when Allen gets blindsided. Allen overall has been getting better, but in the Ravens game it seemed his pocket awareness went way down. If the Bills play the Steelers again I hope one of the lineman gives Watt a healthy punch to the gut or groin.
ILBillsfan Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, Stenbar said: That play should be a penalty. You can't freaking punch someone with the hopes of jarring the ball loose. If that is the case then just start punching the hell out of everyone that has possession. Start drafting MMA fighters to force fumbles. LOL...What a freaking joke. SHould be a unsportsmanlike and a automatic ejection and fine. I know it is not a rule now but going forward they need to change that immediately I'm starting to agree with this that the play should be illegal since it is a punch. If he hits the guys hand it can cause injury if it hits his wrist forearm it can cause injury as well. 5
bbb Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, Nick the Greek said: I’m just waiting for some one to try and punch for a fumble, miss, and end up punching the ball carrier in the face. that’s gonna be hilarious. Same here. And, then they get ejected!
Kelly the Dog Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 How is that possibly legal? And if it were, why wouldn’t 350 pound defensive tackles just wind up and punch running backs as hard as they can in the breastplate or gut on every play trying to cause a fumble? 4 1 3
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 18, 2019 Author Posted December 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, Stenbar said: I saw the Ravens blitz and the Steelers just rushed the four for the most part. Thats a big reason. Guarantee the Pats come after him. The Steelers blitzed. The Bills played a lot of 12 and 22 packages. DiMarco, Smith, and Kroft saw more playing time. Knox saw less, as did McKensie and even Beasley. 1
Kelly the Dog Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The Steelers blitzed. The Bills played a lot of 12 and 22 packages. DiMarco, Smith, and Kroft saw more playing time. Knox saw less, as did McKensie and even Beasley. Which was dumb.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 18, 2019 Author Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: Which was dumb. What was, protecting Allen and avoiding another game-turning, game losing strip sack on our own 24 yd line? 1
IDBillzFan Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 56 minutes ago, Nick the Greek said: that’s gonna be hilarious. And 15 yards.
Jauronimo Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: How is that possibly legal? And if it were, why wouldn’t 350 pound defensive tackles just wind up and punch running backs as hard as they can in the breastplate or gut on every play trying to cause a fumble? Because that requires incredible timing to hit the ball as the ball carrier gets even with you while you're engaged with a blocker or, like you see in the Watt video, running next to the ball carrier sacrificing yards instead of going for the tackle.
Kelly the Dog Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: What was, protecting Allen and avoiding another game-turning, game losing strip sack on our own 24 yd line? No, allowing the Steelers to do what they do best by bunching everyone up tight. Outside of the bomb to Brown all of the good plays we had all game were in the spread version and all of the crap was with DiMarco and Smith. Both TDs were in 11. The change held them back drastically. 3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Because that requires incredible timing to hit the ball as the ball carrier gets even with you while you're engaged with a blocker or, like you see in the Watt video, running next to the ball carrier sacrificing yards instead of going for the tackle. But if they allow you to just punch a ball carrier as hard as you want and that’s okay whether you get it or not why wouldn’t you do it every play? 1
JoshAllin Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 After watching that slowmo, I'd rather take the punch, watt could of layed him out flat with a tackle
Jauronimo Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: No, allowing the Steelers to do what they do best by bunching everyone up tight. Outside of the bomb to Brown all of the good plays we had all game were in the spread version and all of the crap was with DiMarco and Smith. Both TDs were in 11. The change held them back drastically. But if they allow you to just punch a ball carrier as hard as you want and that’s okay whether you get it or not why wouldn’t you do it every play? Because that requires incredible timing and coordination to hit the ball as the ball carrier gets even with you while you're engaged with a blocker or, like you see in the Watt video, running next to the ball carrier sacrificing yards instead of going for the tackle. If you swing at the ball carrier and get neither the ball or bring down the man then you may find your playing time reduced dramatically.
GoBills808 Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Because that requires incredible timing and coordination to hit the ball as the ball carrier gets even with you while you're engaged with a blocker or, like you see in the Watt video, running next to the ball carrier sacrificing yards instead of going for the tackle. If you swing at the ball carrier and get neither the ball or bring down the man then you may find your playing time reduced dramatically. Alternatively, you may also get Chris Collinsworth and Al Michaels to pump your DPOY campaign for a solid 15 minutes in a losing effort! 1
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