MJS Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Brown a bit harshly treated. Other than that I am okay with it. White was the only one I'd have definitely had in. Milano should at least be an alternate.
GunnerBill Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 29 minutes ago, MJS said: Milano should at least be an alternate. I love Milano and if he had played the whole season the way he has played since week 8 or 9 then he would be in. But he had a slow start by his own standards. I don't think he fully trusted his body post injury and that is normal. But he was definitely half a step off in those early weeks.
MJS Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I love Milano and if he had played the whole season the way he has played since week 8 or 9 then he would be in. But he had a slow start by his own standards. I don't think he fully trusted his body post injury and that is normal. But he was definitely half a step off in those early weeks. I disagree. He played very well all season except for the one game back right after his injury. I've seen these claims about him having a slow start and I never saw that myself. He looked great to me except that first game back.
Jasovon Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 So looking at the obvious lack of talent mcdermott must be coach of the year right ? 1
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 7 hours ago, One Buffalo said: Only White ?!? I hope the team is insulated by this and takes it out on the league.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 7 hours ago, whatdrought said: Pro bowl is a joke. It should be an achievement award like MVP and leave it at that, game is a dud.
Thurman#1 Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Let’s go Tre Day Oh, hey, cool. Looked like he'd make it this year, great to see.
Thurman#1 Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 8 hours ago, One Buffalo said: Cool. The Bills were hurt this year by their easy schedule early. Nobody was sure if they were really good or just looking good against bad competition. Now, beating Dallas and the Steelers makes them seem like they're for real, but it's too late for a lot of votes.
GunnerBill Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, MJS said: I disagree. He played very well all season except for the one game back right after his injury. I've seen these claims about him having a slow start and I never saw that myself. He looked great to me except that first game back. Hmm. To me he was noticeably not himself early on.
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: There is a fan vote but as I understand it that’s a small part of the outcome It's 1/3, unfortunately I bet players vote pretty similarly to fans though. 8 hours ago, DCOrange said: The Pro Bowl doesn't really matter, so not worth getting too upset. But like Gunner said, I honestly don't think it's all that wrong that Buffalo only had one pro bowler. You could make a case for some other guys (particularly Brown in my opinion), but this is more of a team of solid players rather than a bunch of great players carrying the team. I'm really curious about the underlying numbers for Phillips. Obviously the sack numbers are great, but for example, he's not among the best DTs in terms of pass-rush win rate (which, ironically, Oliver is), and PFF rates him very low. PFF probably rates him far too low, but they don't just make the stuff up; I'd be really curious why they think so little of his play. Totally a guess on my part, but I'm kinda wondering if Phillips' sacks are mainly seen as coverage sacks or plays where we get pressure off the edge that forces the QB to step up into Phillips rather than Phillips breaking through to the QB himself. Edit: Not the complete answer I was looking for, but I saw a tweet from this morning that Phillips has 22 pressures this season; that's probably not even top 5 on the Bills. I know Hughes was past that a month ago and 3 or 4 others were right around there too. He's been awesome this year. Could probably make a case for a different corner to be in his place, but he isn't a bad choice by any means (like Pouncey for example). Pouncey is rated #36 of 36 centers on PFF and made the Pro Bowl. Edited December 18, 2019 by Giuseppe Tognarelli
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 12 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Jordan Phillips? Don’t be silly, Yolo. Why would an interior defensive linemen with almost 10 sacks in 14 games make the pro-bowl? ...plus, he’s a Buffalo Bill, to boot.
DCOrange Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: It's 1/3, unfortunately I bet players vote pretty similarly to fans though. Pouncey is rated #36 of 36 centers on PFF and made the Pro Bowl. Yeah there’s some really egregious ones that made it too. Brees making it over Dak while missing 1/3 of the season is insane too. Likewise with Jalen Ramsey.
eball Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 Having only Tre selected is perfect for this team -- it actually reinforces McD's message and gives the team yet another chip on their shoulders heading into Foxboro and the playoffs. That said -- congrats to the Tre White Goalie Academy graduate. He deserves every accolade he receives.
YoloinOhio Posted December 18, 2019 Author Posted December 18, 2019 31 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Yeah there’s some really egregious ones that made it too. Brees making it over Dak while missing 1/3 of the season is insane too. Likewise with Jalen Ramsey. I don’t agree with Ramsey selection either.
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 Brady, Tannehill, and Brissett are alternates, but I can't find a list of first, second, third, etc. Very frustrating. This info should be officially announced somewhere.
Bob in STL Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 I thought Poyer and Hyde would do better.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 6 hours ago, rayray808 said: Josh Allen is the third alternate for the Pro Bowl... who is first and second? 3 spots in the Pro Bowl: 1) Lamar Jackson 2) Pat Mahomes 3) Deshaun Watson Obviously, I would love if Josh couldnʻt play because of being in the Super Bowl but if the Ravens, Chiefs or Texans make it, that would open one spot. If Lamar wins the MVP and the Ravens are not in the Super Bowl I could see him bailing out, which would leave another open spot. Question is... who is in front of Josh?!?!?!?! Not saying it lines up perfectly with the votes, but here's how the AFC QBs rank in my ratings sheet: 1. Lamar Jackson (1) 2. Pat Mahomes (3) 3. Deshaun Watson (6) 4. Ryan Tannehill (7) 5. Tom Brady (10) 6. Josh Allen (14) 7. Derek Carr (17) 8. Jacoby Brissett (18) That's enough for 3 plus 5 alternates. The top 3 and Allen wound up correct!
Gray Beard Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 On GMFB, Nate “Pats Ball Washer” Burleson just said that other than Gilmore, the Cowboys haven’t had a game with an elite CB shutting down their receivers, especially Cooper.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 Did Antonio Brown make it? Pro Bowl= money grab=sucker
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