CSBill Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Easterner said: My opinion Is if anyone thinks Allen should get a A for that performance something is wrong with you. 139 passing yards for a NFL QB is just not good enough. This is not acceptable for a NFL QB. We are lucky the Pittsburgh QB was worse. Mods: Block him! Clearly Easterner works at PFF. Edited December 16, 2019 by CSBill 1
JaCrispy Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 5 hours ago, rayray808 said: WEEK 1: B- WEEK 2: B WEEK 3: C+ WEEK 4: F WEEK 5: B+ WEEK 7: B WEEK 8: D+ WEEK 9: B+ WEEK 10: B- WEEK 11: A WEEK 12: B WEEK 13: A WEEK 14: C WEEK 15: A 13/25 - 139 yards - 1 TD - 1 INT - 28 yards rushing 1 TD Grading beyond the stats tonight... On a Sunday Night Football game, where all sorts of records and trends showed that we were not supposed to win this game, Josh Allen helped overcome various obstacles, stayed poised, and lead this team to a W. He had one bad throw that Chris Colinsworth just picked apart, and yet there were many bad drops that could have extended drives. The INT was off Coleʻs hands. Was it high? Sure. Was it catchable? Sure. Fumbles from Devin, Duck throwing prayers and having them answered... none of that seemed to rattle Josh. He was a man on a mission and tonight it was mission accomplished. We are in the playoffs bay bayyyyyyyy! Can’t let the game emotion and magnitude of the game sway your grade...if we are being honest then C+
BananaB Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 4 hours ago, TwistofFate said: If you think 52% completion percentage for sub 150 yards passing and an INT is higher than a C+ grade, you know less than ***** about this game. Ill take a win to clinch a playoff spot but if you think the offense won this game you are a real fanatic. Allen's performance was lack luster and average at best. He made a few plays which puts him in the C range, which is AVERAGE. He gets the + because he capitalized when it was absolutely necessary. Completion percentage and yards would of been more reasonable without the easy drops by our WRs. Would of been turnover free also.
Sundancer Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, CSBill said: Mods: Block him! Clearly Easterner works at PFF. guy is in every thread complaining about the Bills win. They go to Pittsburgh against a super rowdy crowd. Top defense in the league. Playoff game for both teams. And win. At least 3 easy drops and couple others where a good WR play makes the catch. I'll take it.
Freak-O Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 He wasn't exceptional, but had the receivers been exceptional he would have looked that too. I'd give him a B, and I'd give the receivers a B-.
HalftimeAdjustment Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 I have to go with C+. He flashed but was inconsistent and not just because of the D. If he had made a couple of the missed passes, it would go up substantially but it was not a great OR terrible game.
CoudyBills Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 6 hours ago, KD in CA said: That's crazy. The defense gets an A. Allen gets a C+. The pick was all on him and wasn't his only bad throw of the night. Brown saved him on back to back deep throws, once catching it and once preventing a pick. Holy agenda alert. Now a deep completion is saving the QB?
Bob in STL Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 C+ against a killer defense, increased to a B due to his leadership and ability to win. This was a high pressure game and he made enough plays. His supporting cast held him back at times. 1
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, KD in CA said: That's crazy. The defense gets an A. Allen gets a C+. The pick was all on him and wasn't his only bad throw of the night. Brown saved him on back to back deep throws, once catching it and once preventing a pick. Not all in Josh. Beasley got his hands on the ball. I give Josh a B and that’s grading on a curve for what the win meant. Josh, play calling, and receivers need to all improve. one minor play in particular that I’d love to see the coaches work on with Josh is the pass in the flat to the rb coming out of the backfield. Josh needs to let the end come up field more and allow his back to get a little more space. Small thing but saw it last night and last week. Edited December 16, 2019 by atlbillsfan1975
Orlando Buffalo Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 Anything below a B is looking to blame him for what he can't control and not enough for what he can. Beasley has to catch that ball, he is not a fringe player, Allen must be able to trust to catch that every single time. The last TD drive was when that building was in a frenzy, right after Renegade played and he sucked the life out of the building. He was overall good against a great Defense. 1
LABILLBACKER Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 Josh had his players drop 4 balls. Beasley 2, Brown and DiMarco. He should've went 17/25 1 td, 1 rush, 0 ints. It was a very good game for him but I do notice a complete 180 turnaround from last regarding his scrambling instincts. He's alot more hesitant. I know he's trying to stay in the pocket longer to develop but a large portion of his running mojo is gone.
GunnerBill Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 B- A few bad passes but he looked sharp early when the ball was in his hands. The inconsistency came once the Bills went more run heavy.... which is pretty much what I have been saying all season... he is better when the ball is in his hands than when he is handing off then being asked to make 1 throw. Then on that last drive when the Bills put the ball back in his hands and asked him to go win them a football game he delivered with a brilliant throw to Brown and then a laser to Kroft. I will keep saying it.... the Bills need to put the ball in this guy's hands more. They need to let him throw. 2
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: B- A few bad passes but he looked sharp early when the ball was in his hands. The inconsistency came once the Bills went more run heavy.... which is pretty much what I have been saying all season... he is better when the ball is in his hands than when he is handing off then being asked to make 1 throw. Then on that last drive when the Bills put the ball back in his hands and asked him to go win them a football game he delivered with a brilliant throw to Brown and then a laser to Kroft. I will keep saying it.... the Bills need to put the ball in this guy's hands more. They need to let him throw. Agreed, though I take off the minus. The guy is CLUTCH. That's something that can't be taught. 2
Big Gun Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Agreed, though I take off the minus. The guy is CLUTCH. That's something that can't be taught. He's clutch, a gamer and a winner. Great traits to have and yeah you either have them or you don't, can't be taught.
HOUSE Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 I am grading him a B, Pittsburgh has a great defense. He did what he always does. Put a team to sleep then nail you in the 4th. The media is slow to figure it out
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 6 hours ago, TwistofFate said: If you think 52% completion percentage for sub 150 yards passing and an INT is higher than a C+ grade, you know less than ***** about this game. Ill take a win to clinch a playoff spot but if you think the offense won this game you are a real fanatic. Allen's performance was lack luster and average at best. He made a few plays which puts him in the C range, which is AVERAGE. He gets the + because he capitalized when it was absolutely necessary. Don't forget about Singletary's fumble as well to snuff out a good drive lead by JA. If someone thinks that's not all on Josh, well they don't know nothing about nothing. 1 1
thebandit27 Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 I think B- is right And you know what? That's absolutely fine with me 6 hours ago, Easterner said: We all know playing QB in the NFL is the hardest position in sports to play, which is why QB's get the big bucks. Think of all the franchise QB's in the NFL who are too good to trade, but not good enough to win anything- Rivers, Ryan, Stafford, Carr, etc. etc. Allen threw for 139 yards last night, 146 the week before. If those were Tyrod Taylor's numbers he would be run out of town which he was. The defense won the game last night. Allen did not. All rating systems have Allen between 25 and 30. No one is going to the Super Bowl throwing for 140 yards even with no turnovers which is no gimme with Allen. One more time in iambic pentameter? 56 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: B- A few bad passes but he looked sharp early when the ball was in his hands. The inconsistency came once the Bills went more run heavy.... which is pretty much what I have been saying all season... he is better when the ball is in his hands than when he is handing off then being asked to make 1 throw. Then on that last drive when the Bills put the ball back in his hands and asked him to go win them a football game he delivered with a brilliant throw to Brown and then a laser to Kroft. I will keep saying it.... the Bills need to put the ball in this guy's hands more. They need to let him throw. We continue to be in complete lockstep on Allen. Most encouraging to me is that every time the staff lets the kid play football, he seems to step up and deliver. If they'd just trust him to make plays he'd grow faster, but what we need is in there. I'm sure of it. 5
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Easterner said: We all know playing QB in the NFL is the hardest position in sports to play, which is why QB's get the big bucks. Think of all the franchise QB's in the NFL who are too good to trade, but not good enough to win anything- Rivers, Ryan, Stafford, Carr, etc. etc. Allen threw for 139 yards last night, 146 the week before. If those were Tyrod Taylor's numbers he would be run out of town which he was. The defense won the game last night. Allen did not. All rating systems have Allen between 25 and 30. No one is going to the Super Bowl throwing for 140 yards even with no turnovers which is no gimme with Allen. Not really. The ELO rating system on 538, which takes all plays and the opponent into account objectively and valued without bias has had him mostly between 10 and 15. 1
hemma Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 He wins games that our long list of previous QBs would have lost. 1 1
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