Josh Allen - week FIFTEEN report card

[CincyBillsFan]

10 minutes ago, Easterner said:

My opinion Is if anyone thinks Allen should get a A for that performance 

something is wrong with you.

139 passing yards for a NFL QB is just not good enough. This is not

acceptable for a NFL QB. We are lucky the Pittsburgh QB was worse. 

 

Who says 139 yards is awful when you win the game and the QB scores both TD's?  Would you rather have Allen throw for 400 yards and we lose the game.

 

There's another thread that talks about the value of combining TD runs and passes as the key metric for assessing a QB.  Yards are overrated. 

 

Using the following metric Allen had a solid game tonight and has had a good season so far:  Combine total TD's (passing & rushing) and compare that value to the total turnovers (fumbles lost & interceptions) and you get:

 

* for tonight's game 2/1

 

* for the season 27/13 and on pace for 31/15 after 16 games

 

Solid and getting better.  Next year look for 40/10.

 

 

 

 

[Stank_Nasty]

2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

Who says 139 yards is awful when you win the game and the QB scores both TD's?  Would you rather have Allen throw for 400 yards and we lose the game.

 

There's another thread that talks about the value of combining TD runs and passes as the key metric for assessing a QB.  Yards are overrated. 

 

Using the following metric Allen had a solid game tonight and has had a good season so far:  Combine total TD's (passing & rushing) and compare that value to the total turnovers (fumbles lost & interceptions) and you get:

 

* for tonight's game 2/1

 

* for the season 27/13 and on pace for 31/15 after 16 games

 

Solid and getting better.  Next year look for 40/10.

 

 

 

 

If somebody came to me before the season started and said Allen would account for 30+ td’s..... where can I sign? Lol 

[John from Riverside]

20 minutes ago, Easterner said:

My opinion Is if anyone thinks Allen should get a A for that performance 

something is wrong with you.

139 passing yards for a NFL QB is just not good enough. This is not

acceptable for a NFL QB. We are lucky the Pittsburgh QB was worse. 

Your not taking the level of the defense we were playing (at their home into account)

 

Way too happy to be in the playoffs to give thoughts that would give me a warning......Ill leave it for not

[Stank_Nasty]

When do we get to hear from PFF? I wanna see the assessment on Hodges 

Edited December 16, 2019 by Stank_Nasty

[BringBackOrton]

20 minutes ago, rayray808 said:

 

Would you want 300 yards in a loss? Cowboys fan I assume?

Sometimes QB’s play better than Allen did tonight and still win games. 

[Doc Brown]

I'm more critical of Josh Allen than most but I'd have to give him a B+ for this game considering the circumstances against a defense in a hostile environment who leads the league in takeaways and sacks.  He only took one sack and committed one turnover (which was only partly his fault).  Great recognition to hurry up to the one and call a QB run for himself for the first touchdown.  Nice throw to Brown on the go route and a strike to Kroft for the TD.  There was also a weird looking play in the 1st half where I thought it was a QB draw to the right and it looked like there was nothing there so he spun around and hit Beasley on the opposite side for seven or so yards that was impressive.  I'd have to rewatch the film to be sure.

 

There were some throws that got away from him that would've been easy first downs (although there were some drops) and his throw to Beasley would've been a big play instead of an INT if he was more accurate with that throw.  Despite that, I was encouraged as he performed better this week compared to last week against an even more dominating defense on the road.

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

I missed the first half, so I just re-watched the game (FFWD) and I would grade Allen a solid B.  He had a few inaccurate balls but he cancelled those out with some big time throws to get first downs.  He had a couple critical drops (Brown and Beasley), some batted passes, and the Singletary fumble approaching the red zone didn't help.  But it this was far from what I was reading by the typical haters.  As stated many times, this team is desperately needing another go-to receiver opposite Brown.  And for whatever reason, this offensive unit CANNOT SELL a freaking screen.  

[ILBillsfan]

I give him a B-

 

Wr's making plays for there QB.  The Knox one handed grab last week is on of those wow catches but how many drops are these going to have.  Beasley, brown had one the pass to dimarco sure the ball could be placed a bit better but man your in the NFL you should be expected to make those catches.  Shady used to say last year young QB's need the receivers to make catches for them as well.  It's a two part game.  

 

The staff really got scared or something in the second half evern after Allen hit Brown on the 40 yard pass.  Guess the next one where he went to the endzone sacred them but just not sure why the playcalling went super conservative

 

Another 4th quarter game winning drive to add to the resume.  

[Easterner]

We all know playing QB in the NFL is the hardest position in sports to play,  

which is why QB's get the big bucks.

Think of all the franchise QB's in the NFL who are too good to trade, 

but not good enough to win anything- Rivers, Ryan, Stafford, Carr, etc. etc.

Allen threw for 139 yards last night, 146 the week before. If those were Tyrod

Taylor's numbers he would be run out of town which he was. The defense won

the game last night. Allen did not. All rating systems have Allen between

25 and 30. No one is going to the Super Bowl throwing for 140 yards even with

no turnovers which is no gimme with Allen.

[ILBillsfan]

10 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

When do we get to hear from PFF? I wanna see the assessment on Hodges 

you know they will have Hodges rated higher than Allen by at least twenty points

[BringBackOrton]

4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I'm more critical of Josh Allen than most but I'd have to give him a B+ for this game considering the circumstances against a defense in a hostile environment who leads the league in takeaways and sacks.  He only took one sack and committed one turnover (which was only partly his fault).  Great recognition to hurry up to the one and call a QB run for himself for the first touchdown.  Nice throw to Brown on the go route and a strike to Kroft for the TD.  There was also a weird looking play in the 1st half where I thought it was a QB draw to the right and it looked like there was nothing there so he spun around and hit Beasley on the opposite side for seven or so yards that was impressive.  I'd have to rewatch the film to be sure.

 

There were some throws that got away from him that would've been easy first downs (although there were some drops) and his throw to Beasley would've been a big play instead of an INT if he was more accurate with that throw.  Despite that, I was encouraged as he performed better this week compared to last week against an even more dominating defense on the road.

The wonderful thing about Josh is he consistently manages to step up in big moments to ***** victories. It doesn’t matter if he’s struggled all day or been lights out, if the game is close he gives us a chance to win. Even in our losses, it took a tremendous defensive play for us to lose to the Ravens and a long end of game drive/missed FG to lose to the Browns.

 

He’s clutch. No ifs ands or buts. 

 

He does need to become more consistent though. It’s a lot easier to win games at the end with a strong defensive performance all night, but if the defense takes a step back, we won’t be in positions to win as often.

[TwistofFate]

52 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

If you think this guy driving down the field to score a game-winning touchdown on the road in FREAKING Pittsburgh is a C+ game, you don't know schitt about this game.

 

Period.

If you think 52% completion percentage for sub 150 yards passing and an INT is higher than a C+ grade, you know less than ***** about this game. 

 

Ill take a win to clinch a playoff spot but if you think the offense won this game you are a real fanatic. 

 

Allen's performance was lack luster and average at best.   He made a few plays which puts him in the C range, which is AVERAGE.   He gets the + because he capitalized when it was absolutely necessary. 

[gobills1212]

Bah buh beh B!!

For 'the Bees knees'!!

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

8 minutes ago, Easterner said:

We all know playing QB in the NFL is the hardest position in sports to play,  

which is why QB's get the big bucks.

Think of all the franchise QB's in the NFL who are too good to trade, 

but not good enough to win anything- Rivers, Ryan, Stafford, Carr, etc. etc.

Allen threw for 139 yards last night, 146 the week before. If those were Tyrod

Taylor's numbers he would be run out of town which he was. The defense won

the game last night. Allen did not. All rating systems have Allen between

25 and 30. No one is going to the Super Bowl throwing for 140 yards even with

no turnovers which is no gimme with Allen.

 

Seems to be working for both Lamar and Allen. 

[Saxum]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Just another game winning 4th quarter drive no biggie

 

Allen's nickname should be "4th quarter".

[Stank_Nasty]

44 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Allen's nickname should be "4th quarter".

Sounds better than “duck” 

[ganesh]

2 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

A-

 

When it mattered most, Allen came through big. 

 

With this offense and considering where Allen is in his development the stats mean nothing. 

 

Two drives earned him the A-.

 

1)  After the bad punt we faced 3rd & 20 and Allen gained 12 yards on a nice run.  Then on 4th & 8 he had a perfect throw to Brown for the 1st down.  That kept the drive alive and we got a TD.

 

2)  After tying the game Allen had 2 fantastic throws midway through the 4th quarter to take the Bills 70 yards for the winning TD. 

 

Playing on the road against an elite D is not going to boost your stats.  What matters is what happens at key moments in the game.  And again, Allen came through.

 

He now has 27 total TD's and 13 total TO's.  That's really good.  And those are the numbers that matter.  Yardage, not so much.

 

 

+1.  People don't look at the big picture....and he had only 3 of those 13 TO's in the last 9 games....I just don't see how people downright dislike his play.

[mykidsdad]

B   a solid B. He managed the game and made a few good throws and missed a couple. 

And with this D a B is good enough. 

[oldmanfan]

B/B-.  He played a really good defense, made some good throws, made a couple bad ones.  But the bottom line with this kid thus far in his career is he shows up in the fourth quarter when the game is on the line and performs.  You can't teach that.

[QCity]

C