Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Duck definitely looked superior tonight. He completed a lot of passes to guys in Bills’ jerseys. Haha, I'll have to total up the yardage 2 hours ago, Fixxxer said: they can keep their duck, who cares.- Tomlin want a Quacker? (I wouldn't, but apparently Duck trash talked about our D last week so....) 3
GoBills808 Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 On 12/12/2019 at 8:19 PM, GoBills808 said: It’s worse than wrong; it’s stupid and it’s indicative of the kind of analysis that plagues the NFL these days. I can guarantee whoever wrote that hasn’t watched enough of Allen and certainly hasn’t watched Hodges to conclude that. I’ve seen all his throws. He doesn’t do anything very well. He was their third stringer for a reason and while I think he’s playing better than Rudolph, acting like it isn’t ridiculous to say he’s better than Allen just means you haven’t seen him play. He throws safe passes underneath and a couple 50/50 bombs that his receivers help him out with occasionally. He is in no way shape or form a better QB than Allen. Not bad 1
transplantbillsfan Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: must bump
BuffaloBills1998 Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Fitz was the best QB besides Allen we've had since Kelly He played on crappy teams and won us games with some great performances The dude has vastly outplayed his draft slot and has 30k yards. He made Stevie Johnson not the opposite That's why Fitz is still making millions No my friend I have to disagree strongly, Fitz was not the best since Kelly hell he’s not even the best since Flutie. Fitz for what he is as a QB is very mediocre to poor. He’s a great leader and good locker room/roll model guy but that does not win you football games at the end of it. We overpaid for a career back up who looked good because of TO and Johnson. We wasted so much time on developing him it was ridiculous. Modern day Joe Ferguson but with a weak arm 1 hour ago, mykidsdad said: PFF picking Hodges over Allen is a joke. After 4 interceptions I hope the people at PFF who keep perpetuating the Josh Allen was a terrible pick narrative just give it up already. JA isnt Montana yet, but Duck Hodges, really? PFF sucks. JA and the Bils are proving it on the field. PFF hates Buffalo
Buffalo716 Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: No my friend I have to disagree strongly, Fitz was not the best since Kelly hell he’s not even the best since Flutie. Fitz for what he is as a QB is very mediocre to poor. He’s a great leader and good locker room/roll model guy but that does not win you football games at the end of it. We overpaid for a career back up who looked good because of TO and Johnson. We wasted so much time on developing him it was ridiculous. Modern day Joe Ferguson but with a weak arm PFF hates Buffalo Poor QBs don't last 12+ years and start all those games He's physically limited. A poor QB far from it 1
BuffaloBills1998 Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Poor QBs don't last 12+ years and start all those games He's physically limited. A poor QB far from it I’m sorry but he held this team back for so many years because of his piss poor playing, don’t get me wrong I liked him but he’s not a starter and never was, I’ve seen his stats and they are garbage
Buffalo716 Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I’m sorry but he held this team back for so many years because of his piss poor playing, don’t get me wrong I liked him but he’s not a starter and never was, I’ve seen his stats and they are garbage The teams he were on were piss poor His stats are world beater but they aren't garbage either, peace And he made Stevie Johnson
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 Every time you believe PFF, God wills a Bills receiver will drop the ball... ?
Doc Brown Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 47 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I’m sorry but he held this team back for so many years because of his piss poor playing, don’t get me wrong I liked him but he’s not a starter and never was, I’ve seen his stats and they are garbage He was hot and cold with us but in the end he's an average NFL starting QB and you need more than that to make the playoffs consistently. We tried the same thing with Trent Edwards and Tyrod Taylor. A lot of teams fall into that trap. I'm seeing it right now with Tannehill, Minshew (Foles), Carr, and Winston. If the front offices thinks that's their guy for the future they have another thing coming. Allen at least has the physical tools to develop into a franchise QB. 1
GunnerBill Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 3 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Not bad Yep. Indeed the only bit I thought you were a tad harsh on was the deep balls. I do think Hodges while he doesn't have a great arm has really nice feel and touch on his deeper passes and there were 2 or 3 more examples last night. They are still not always exactly on the money but the problem is he lives and dies by that. When asked to read the defense, make good decsions and accurate throws to move the offense down the field consistently he comes up short. Some of the decisions on his 4 picks were mind bogglingly bad. I don't think he is better than Rudolph. Rudolph's head was scrambled after that Cleveland game not just by the ending but by his second half performance so I understood the move but there is no way they have gone to a better QB in Hodges. 1
Rochesterfan Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 37 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yep. Indeed the only bit I thought you were a tad harsh on was the deep balls. I do think Hodges while he doesn't have a great arm has really nice feel and touch on his deeper passes and there were 2 or 3 more examples last night. They are still not always exactly on the money but the problem is he lives and dies by that. When asked to read the defense, make good decsions and accurate throws to move the offense down the field consistently he comes up short. Some of the decisions on his 4 picks were mind bogglingly bad. I don't think he is better than Rudolph. Rudolph's head was scrambled after that Cleveland game not just by the ending but by his second half performance so I understood the move but there is no way they have gone to a better QB in Hodges. I agree totally - you can see by his completion chart they showed during the game - he was living with the very short pass and then getting completions down the field, but nearly nothing in the 10-20 yard range where a QB is reading and anticipating throws. He is basically taking cheap check downs and 50/50 balls, but to Pittsburgh’s credit - it had worked against mediocre defenses like Cleveland. The Bills were prepared and made the plays to win this game.
Doc Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Haha, I'll have to total up the yardage Tomlin want a Quacker? (I wouldn't, but apparently Duck trash talked about our D last week so....) He trash talked the Bills’ defense?
Freak-O Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I’m sorry but he held this team back for so many years because of his piss poor playing, don’t get me wrong I liked him but he’s not a starter and never was, I’ve seen his stats and they are garbage There are not 32 QB's better than Fitzpatrick in this league so obviously he's a starter. Is he a starter in e Superbowl contender? No, but in the NFL, yes.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 Duck wasn’t good. Personally ever play he made last night that was positive any QB playing in the NFL could make. there are roughly 64 QB’s on active rosters. Every year over 100 QB’s graduate from D1 programs. Every pass I saw Duck make, anyone of those quarterbacks with college arms could of made.
Wayne Arnold Posted December 16, 2019 Author Posted December 16, 2019 4 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I’m sorry but he held this team back for so many years because of his piss poor playing, don’t get me wrong I liked him but he’s not a starter and never was, I’ve seen his stats and they are garbage The defense held the team back while Fitz was here. The only thing Fitz was guilty of was not being capable of carrying a bad team on his shoulders. If they keep Fitz in 2013 and 2014 instead of reaching for Manuel, they win 11-12 games and go to the playoffs in both of those seasons. I won’t allow Fitz slander in a thread I started. We all know his limitations but he’s still beloved here and we need FitzMagic in Week 17 to capture the AFC East crown.
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 4 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I’m sorry but he held this team back for so many years because of his piss poor playing, don’t get me wrong I liked him but he’s not a starter and never was, I’ve seen his stats and they are garbage "I've seen his stats" is usually code for "I didn't watch the games and I don't know what I'm talking about, but I have a way too strong opinion" 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 ...PFF was dead on......Turducken had 4 picks....Josh had 1.......bigger is better, right??.......... 3
r00tabaga Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 6 hours ago, mykidsdad said: PFF picking Hodges over Allen is a joke. After 4 interceptions I hope the people at PFF who keep perpetuating the Josh Allen was a terrible pick narrative just give it up already. JA isnt Montana yet, but Duck Hodges, really? PFF sucks. JA and the Bils are proving it on the field. Technically he WAS more accurate.....I consider those 4 INTs as completed catches 1
tcampbell104 Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 what did duck say about the bills defense
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