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1 minute ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Let’s be honest though. The Ravens don’t utilize the position effectively. This whole debate existed when Roman was calling plays with Watkins and Woods. 


I don’t think that getting the ball to recievers on the outside of the field is what Lamar does well.  I noticed this last week too.  
 

He throws passes to the middle of the field really well and has since college.  That’s why the TE’s are so important in this offense as PSE catchers

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Just now, jrober38 said:

 

Agreed.

 

Brown and Snead do next to nothing for me. Past that they have absolutely nothing. 

 

They're loaded at tight end, but I think they could use a major upgrade at WR. 

The Ravens have been trying to rehab their WR group for as long as I can remember. Drafted Breshaud perriman in the 1st (bust), marquise brown in the 1st, signed Crabtree in FA (gone), Jeremy Maclin (FA bust), mike Wallace etc etc 

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Just now, SCBills said:

Lamar Jackson is a beast right now but why would any top WR ever want to go there?

 

They run a lot.  
 

They don’t go over the top.  
 

They rarely throw to the sideline.  
 

All your routes are hard hitting slot routes/crossers in the middle of the field. 

 

Well, Marquise Brown just took some punishment for those catches.

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2 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Let’s be honest though. The Ravens don’t utilize the position effectively. This whole debate existed when Roman was calling plays with Watkins and Woods. 

 

I think that was an EJ Manuel/Tyrod Taylor problem.

 

With Kyle Orton under centre, Watkins was actually super productive under Greg Roman. 

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1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Lamar Jackson is a beast right now but why would any top WR ever want to go there?

 

They run a lot.  
 

They don’t go over the top.  
 

They rarely throw to the sideline.  
 

All your routes are hard hitting slot routes/crossers in the middle of the field. 

Depends on the receiver. Someone like AJ Green would probably be happy to go there and have a shot at playoffs or more. Mentor the young guys. 

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Just now, Phil The Thrill said:


I don’t think that getting the ball to recievers on the outside of the field is what Lamar does well.  I noticed this last week too.  
 

He throws passes to the middle of the field really well and has since college.  That’s why the TE’s are so important in this offense as PSE catchers

 

IIRC I think you were the one who looked at the passing chart I posted for Lamar last week and pointed out how effectively the Bills D took the middle of the field away from him?

 

I can’t find a passing chart that’s cumulative but I think you’re right.  

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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

The Ravens have been trying to rehab their WR group for as long as I can remember. Drafted Breshaud perriman in the 1st (bust), marquise brown in the 1st, signed Crabtree in FA (gone), Jeremy Maclin (FA bust), mike Wallace etc etc 

 

 

Signed and let Smoke go.  

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1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Lamar Jackson is a beast right now but why would any top WR ever want to go there?

 

They run a lot.  
 

They don’t go over the top.  
 

They rarely throw to the sideline.  
 

All your routes are hard hitting slot routes/crossers in the middle of the field. 


That was a knock on him coming out of college.  They don’t have throw to the sideline because he doesn’t hit those passes very well.  

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4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

By their scheme, Lamar is asked to make only 1 read from the pocket.  That's what it looks like to me.  

 

Count the number of times a game its more than 1.

 

Doesn't this matter in your QBs development?

To be fair I haven't watched every single Ravens game but judging by the ones I have and what I know about Roman I would guess that this is generally the case.

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2 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

I think that was an EJ Manuel/Tyrod Taylor problem.

 

With Kyle Orton under centre, Watkins was actually super productive under Greg Roman. 

Roman wasn’t here with Orton. That was marrone/Lil Nate

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4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Lamar Jackson is a beast right now but why would any top WR ever want to go there?

 

They run a lot.  
 

They don’t go over the top.  
 

They rarely throw to the sideline.  
 

All your routes are hard hitting slot routes/crossers in the middle of the field. 
 

You have to compete with tight ends for targets.
 

You are asked to block alllll the time.
 

 

 

I agree, a veteran receiver probably wouldn't want to go there, but I think we'll all underestimate how much NFL players would want to go play with the reigning MVP in an offense that scores as many points as they do.

 

The guys they'd attract would be the type of high character guys that you'd want your team to go after. 

 

High maintenance divas wouldn't want anything to do with it, but I don't think those are the type of guys who help you win games anyways. 

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Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

IIRC I think you were the one who looked at the passing chart I posted for Lamar last week and pointed out how effectively the Bills D took the middle of the field away from him?

 

I can’t find a passing chart that’s cumulative but I think you’re right.  


That’s why I was impressed with the Bills defense to take out the running game.  And yes, despite what some analysts said - the Bills did limit Lamar all around.
 

If you take away the blown coverage on the 61 yard touchdown and the shorted field where they started at the 21 yard line.  They held the Ravens to only one sustained TD drive which was helped out by a bad punt at the 49 yard line.  
 

If you can somehow bottle up the Baltimore ground game (big “if) , I don’t think he’s able to win the game with his arm.  We might see this play out in a few weeks

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