row_33 Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 6:30 PM, Nextmanup said: How in the world are smaller markets supposed to compete? Expand i know, sports is supposed to be fair and every team, no matter how incompetent or useless, should be guaranteed a championship every 5 years or so?
apuszczalowski Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 6:29 PM, ExiledInIllinois said: Who doesn't want to be a Yankee? Expand Good people........
row_33 Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 7:13 PM, apuszczalowski said: I was comparing the Jays to Baltimore The only way they get close to competing with Boston & NY is if they get a new front office and new owners........ Expand i don't want to have the rest of the month ruined by thinking about the Jays and Orioles in the same hour... always fun to applaud a pitcher who voluntarily goes to the AL East, at least he won't be facing the Yankees.
apuszczalowski Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 7:14 PM, row_33 said: i know, sports is supposed to be fair and every team, no matter how incompetent or useless, should be guaranteed a championship every 5 years or so? Expand That's not it, it's not an issue that teams should be guaranteed championships or winning teams, but about 3/4s of the league will never be able to compete with the Yankees or Red Sox just because they are the Yankees and Red Sox who can just throw money around and get what they want.
KD in CA Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 8:09 AM, Doc Brown said: Well, if you can't beat him. Sign him for 324 million dollars. Go Yanks. Expand I miss George. He was good for sports and good for New York. 2
Doc Brown Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 6:30 PM, Gugny said: I remember when Randy Johnson went to NY and couldn't handle it. I hope that doesn't happen to Cole. This gets the Rangers off the hook for the most stupid contract of all-time (10-year Alex Rodriguez deal). Expand It's not a stupid contract because there's no salary cap. They obviously don't give a crap about the luxury tax. Plus the MLB player's union is an actual functioning union that refused to be bullied by owners pushing for a hard cap. 1
row_33 Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 7:18 PM, apuszczalowski said: That's not it, it's not an issue that teams should be guaranteed championships or winning teams, but about 3/4s of the league will never be able to compete with the Yankees or Red Sox just because they are the Yankees and Red Sox who can just throw money around and get what they want. Expand Tampa has done a great amount of competing at a fraction of the NYY/BoSox salaries. the imbalance in schedule is the worst part of it, a bad team like the Jays play 1/3 of their season against Bos/NYY/TB, no other division puts that much torture on a weak team for scheduling
KD in CA Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 6:30 PM, Gugny said: I remember when Randy Johnson went to NY and couldn't handle it. I hope that doesn't happen to Cole. This gets the Rangers off the hook for the most stupid contract of all-time (10-year Alex Rodriguez deal). Expand Wasn't it stupider when the Yankees gave him a new ten years contract after ARod opted out of the last 3 years of the original?
Uncle Joe Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 6:45 AM, Virgil said: Yankees reset the standard for elite pitching contracts. Crazy how far these contracts have come. NBA salary levels per year https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28271369/sources-yankees-gerrit-cole-agree-record-9-year-324m-deal @Mike in Horseheads Expand Hope your other eye is still ok ? On 12/11/2019 at 1:35 PM, Mike in Horseheads said: In other news the O's are on target for the #1 pick in 2020,2021,2022..... Expand Although I am a Yankee fan I am hoping Adley has a great major league career. 1
Virgil Posted December 11, 2019 Author Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 8:44 PM, KD in CA said: Wasn't it stupider when the Yankees gave him a new ten years contract after ARod opted out of the last 3 years of the original? Expand I hated that deal. Never wanted him in NY and hated when they extended him. Never worth it. On 12/11/2019 at 8:59 PM, Uncle Joe said: Hope your other eye is still ok ?. Expand I’m more happy he didn’t stay in Houston. If we signed with the Dodgers I would have been just as happy. Him leaving was addition by subtraction. Verlander is going to fall off eventually, Grienke doesn’t scare me. If German gets his legal stuff figured out, then our rotation is insane. Cole, Severino, German, Tanaka, Paxton. We lost Didi, but we were stacked in the infield. Get a cheap DH/1B that’ll bat 9th and we are pretty set. I wish they could get rid of Stantons contract, but whatever.
Uncle Joe Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 9:04 PM, Virgil said: I hated that deal. Never wanted him in NY and hated when they extended him. Never worth it. I’m more happy he didn’t stay in Houston. If we signed with the Dodgers I would have been just as happy. Him leaving was addition by subtraction. Verlander is going to fall off eventually, Grienke doesn’t scare me. If German gets his legal stuff figured out, then our rotation is insane. Cole, Severino, German, Tanaka, Paxton. We lost Didi, but we were stacked in the infield. Get a cheap DH/1B that’ll bat 9th and we are pretty set. I wish they could get rid of Stantons contract, but whatever. Expand Well it still is an eye popping amount of money. Yankees rotation just got better barring injury, Need to see where the other free agent chips fall before I will assess the changes. The only problem I had during the ALCS was the lack of discipline at the plate. IMO, Astros and Nats (NLCS/WS) worked the count/plate much better.
dpberr Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Can you imagine a MLB with an NFL-like salary cap? It'd force the cheap teams to spend money. Fans tend to hate the Yankees because they spend but the bigger issue is the growing number of teams that don't spend and the growing number of teams content with tanking for a few years to gobble up cheap prospects they can control so they don't have to spend money. A real salary cap would fundamentally change the game and take away the competitive advantage of the Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers. Perhaps give some teams a new lease on life with new owners (Pittsburgh,). Bob Nutting would sell the team before being told he'd be required to spend $150 million every year. There's zero parity in baseball. Yes, a small market team can be competitive, and perhaps can even win a World Series in any given year, but the money isn't there to make it sustainable.
Doc Brown Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 9:49 PM, dpberr said: Can you imagine a MLB with an NFL-like salary cap? It'd force the cheap teams to spend money. Fans tend to hate the Yankees because they spend but the bigger issue is the growing number of teams that don't spend and the growing number of teams content with tanking for a few years to gobble up cheap prospects they can control so they don't have to spend money. A real salary cap would fundamentally change the game and take away the competitive advantage of the Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers. Perhaps give some teams a new lease on life with new owners (Pittsburgh,). Bob Nutting would sell the team before being told he'd be required to spend $150 million every year. There's zero parity in baseball. Yes, a small market team can be competitive, and perhaps can even win a World Series in any given year, but the money isn't there to make it sustainable. Expand The MLB is America's pastime and therefore shouldn't fall victim to the socialist policies implemented by the NFL and NHL. 1
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 9:49 PM, dpberr said: Can you imagine a MLB with an NFL-like salary cap? It'd force the cheap teams to spend money. Fans tend to hate the Yankees because they spend but the bigger issue is the growing number of teams that don't spend and the growing number of teams content with tanking for a few years to gobble up cheap prospects they can control so they don't have to spend money. A real salary cap would fundamentally change the game and take away the competitive advantage of the Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers. Perhaps give some teams a new lease on life with new owners (Pittsburgh,). Bob Nutting would sell the team before being told he'd be required to spend $150 million every year. There's zero parity in baseball. Yes, a small market team can be competitive, and perhaps can even win a World Series in any given year, but the money isn't there to make it sustainable. Expand agreed. Nutting doesn’t have to spend any money. He can put a garbage product on the field and make a ton of money. Consider that that pirates team not long ago had Cole, Mark Melancon, and Charlie Morton— three critical players on playoffs teams this past year. He let them all walk.
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 8:59 PM, Uncle Joe said: Although I am a Yankee fan I am hoping Adley has a great major league career. Expand I'd just like the O's to become competitive again, sadly all these high picks if they work out will leave like Manny. At least I can't be accused to be a fair weather fan, supporting the Bills, Sabres O's and Nets the drought is since 1983. Ironically the year I got married! (It ended before everyone yells for a divorce! LOL)
row_33 Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 oh yeah? Jays just came to terms with Tanner Roarke dancing, they're dancing in the streets...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 See our resident envious Mets fans are out in force! 1
Uncle Joe Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 10:54 PM, Mike in Horseheads said: I'd just like the O's to become competitive again, sadly all these high picks if they work out will leave like Manny. At least I can't be accused to be a fair weather fan, supporting the Bills, Sabres O's and Nets the drought is since 1983. Ironically the year I got married! (It ended before everyone yells for a divorce! LOL) Expand Hopefully you were around for the Palmer, McNally, Cuellar and Dobson era.
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 On 12/12/2019 at 12:02 AM, Uncle Joe said: Hopefully you were around for the Palmer, McNally, Cuellar and Dobson era. Expand Born in 1960, O's AA team was in Elmira and thats my connection. Earl Weaver manged here and most of the core played here for that era. 1969 losing to the Mets broke my heart. Little did I know what was to follow... 1 1
Sanners Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 8:20 PM, Doc Brown said: It's not a stupid contract because there's no salary cap. They obviously don't give a crap about the luxury tax. Plus the MLB player's union is an actual functioning union that refused to be bullied by owners pushing for a hard cap. Expand Yep, but the sport is dying. No interest in about 70% of teams.
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