njbuff Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 They should be docked multiple first and second round picks until both Brady and Belichick retire. That will be the only way the Pats MIGHT get it.
benderbender Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc said: What information they might or might not have gained is immaterial. They cheated. Asking how much the guilty party benefited is tantamount to asking a cheating spouse if they climaxed. Sure, you can wonder. But it’s really beside the point and definitely won’t make it hurt any less. 1
Just Joshin' Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 The Bengals were smart to get the evidence. Now the apologists can not make excuses. In spygate 1 the evidence was destroyed to enable the excuses that the tapes did not make a difference. If they did not, why did they continue. The other 31 teams need to demand that Foxboro is searched with some other team reps to witness.
Bring it Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 22 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The Bengals security guy is more competent than their entire front office That’s the way it looks to me too!!
Doc Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don’t roll with the “you are stupid and ignorant if you don’t agree with me” generally, but let’s just say I find it highly implausible that information gained from these videos wouldn’t make its way to Belicheck and his coaches. It was enough years ago. Someone told them what to do during the filming. It was obviously going to get back to Belicheat. 13 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: The Bengals were smart to get the evidence. Now the apologists can not make excuses. In spygate 1 the evidence was destroyed to enable the excuses that the tapes did not make a difference. If they did not, why did they continue. The other 31 teams need to demand that Foxboro is searched with some other team reps to witness. There was a 2015 Outside The Lines documentary saying that the cheating was far worse than any of us knew. Goodell covered it up, for obvious reasons. Edited December 15, 2019 by Doc
wppete Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 Read this article. They got caught red handed. https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13533995/split-nfl-new-england-patriots-apart https://twitter.com/johnbreech/status/1204146996430417923?s=21 1
peterpan Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, buffalojedwardo said: as much as I agree kicking them out of the playoffs it would cost the league millions of dollars and they wouldn't do it. No they wouldn't. Pats out, Bills win AFCE. Steelers and Titans are wild cards. Same games, no New England, nothing lost. 10 minutes ago, Doc said: Someone told them what to do during the filming. It was obviously going to get back to Belicheat. There was a 2015 Outside The Lines documentary saying that the cheating was far worse than any of us knew. Goodell covered it up, for obvious reasons. No sheet!
CaptnCoke11 Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 This will get swept under the rug most likely 1 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: The Bengals were smart to get the evidence. Now the apologists can not make excuses. In spygate 1 the evidence was destroyed to enable the excuses that the tapes did not make a difference. If they did not, why did they continue. The other 31 teams need to demand that Foxboro is searched with some other team reps to witness. too late, I’m sure the Pats have destroyed the evidence
apuszczalowski Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 Kraft needs to be forced out, he needs to be forced to sell the franchise like what the NBA did to the one owner after his racist comments. Hit them with a HUGE fine, and if a shred of evidence shows BB had any knowledge of this or used any of this info he needs to be given the Pete Rose punishment. It will never happen though. They will come up with some excuse that this is standard scouting and sweep it under the rug while probably fining or punishing the Bengals for the way they spoke to the Patriots employee and for not offering them the info they needed or a better viewing angle of the sideline 1
wppete Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: This will get swept under the rug most likely I don’t think it will this time. That video was damming. Also during SpyGate 1 investigation NE had a plan if they got caught. Just say they were filming for a TV Show. Exactly what happened.
Sig1Hunter Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 52 minutes ago, wppete said: Read this article. They got caught red handed. https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13533995/split-nfl-new-england-patriots-apart https://twitter.com/johnbreech/status/1204146996430417923?s=21 How does ESPN go from exposing the Patriots in that article then to shilling for them now? Every time “The Worldwide Leader” talks about the topic it is completely minimized and the cheating history and MO are totally ignored. Bless the Bengals for fighting this fight! Seriously. 2
Orlando Buffalo Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: too late, I’m sure the Pats have destroyed the evidence Bengals released part of tape- and it looks bad for Pat's*. Part of defense for Pat's* is that they are too smart to be this dumb. 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: Jimmy Johnson: "I don't care if it's Bill Belicheck or any other coach, no nfl coach would approve this." What the *****. Are you that old and senile that you have forgotten that it's already happened? You #######. Jimmy was responsible for the Dallas "white house"- nothing he says mean anything to me. 1
ComradeKayAdams Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: How does ESPN go from exposing the Patriots in that article then to shilling for them now? Every time “The Worldwide Leader” talks about the topic it is completely minimized and the cheating history and MO are totally ignored. Bless the Bengals for fighting this fight! Seriously. Us media types are all given instructions to minimize the Patriots' cheating so to make the NFL look legitimate and not look like the bull####, big-market pandering WWE circus that it has become. But deep down, we all know their two-decade "dynasty" is fraudulent. We just can't say it on the air. Oh my stars....I'd lose my job at GMFB if I said this! On a related note, please no one tell Roger Goodell that I post here at Two Bills Drive. Edited December 15, 2019 by KayAdams 3
Reed83HOF Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, KayAdams said: Us media types are all given instructions to minimize the Patriots' cheating so to make the NFL look legitimate and not look like the bull####, big-market pandering WWE circus that it has become. But deep down, we all know their two-decade "dynasty" is fraudulent. We just can't say it on the air. Oh my stars....I'd lose my job at GMFB if I said this! On a related note, please no one tell Roger Goodell that I post here at Two Bills Drive. @Roger Goodell 1
Augie Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 53 minutes ago, wppete said: I don’t think it will this time. That video was damming. Also during SpyGate 1 investigation NE had a plan if they got caught. Just say they were filming for a TV Show. Exactly what happened. ZERO points for creativity this time! 1
ComradeKayAdams Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: @Roger Goodell You know what? I'm okay with this. I said what needed to be said. 1
apuszczalowski Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: By suspended, they mean he was given a substantial 'severence package', a home on an island, and a booklet of free 'massage coupons' 1 2
Reed83HOF Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said: By suspended, they mean he was given a substantial 'severence package', a home on an island, and a booklet of free 'massage coupons' Him & the Deflator share a place in Cape Cod
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