Mr. WEO Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, dneveu said: Because he really doesn't put the ball on the ground over the course of his career. He fumbles like 1 every 100 touches... which is actually pretty good. Singletary has 2 fumbles on 141 touches. So he would actually be considered more fumble prone. Then there is the example of sample size. If I don't think 141 touches is a large enough sample to label a player fumble prone - then neither is TJ yeldons 20 touches. 15 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: How has it been disproven? Yeldon puts the ball on the ground Turnovrs lose games See above. The same thing has been posted over several threads for weeks. You could have easily looked it up yourself before you posted the same fallacy.
BillnutinHouston Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 It would be fascinating to see behind the scenes, i.e., which coaches are lobbying for who to be active. But I have to think that if Daboll were to say that this week's plan requires Yeldon to be active to combat blitz packages, he'd get his wish.
John from Riverside Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 55 minutes ago, dneveu said: Because he really doesn't put the ball on the ground over the course of his career. He fumbles like 1 every 100 touches... which is actually pretty good. Singletary has 2 fumbles on 141 touches. So he would actually be considered more fumble prone. Then there is the example of sample size. If I don't think 141 touches is a large enough sample to label a player fumble prone - then neither is TJ yeldons 20 touches. To be clear....i have always thought yeldon was a fumbler. If he isnt.....he should be PLAYING because Gore has fallen way off
dave mcbride Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 On 12/9/2019 at 12:47 AM, I am the egg man said: Yeldon- 6 fumbles, 656 touches. One fumble per 109 touches. Gore- 45 fumbles, 3,997 touches. One fumble per 88 touches. What's apparent JoPo Gore's a higher fumble risk than Yeldon. 1
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 10:14 PM, Ethan in Portland said: I have been fairly vocal that cutting McCoy was a mistake. I was fine with the Gore signing but not at the expense of cutting Shady. Now 13 games into the season, it is clear Gore has nothing left. He is not contributing anything on the field. Let's assume he is a good locker room presence. Well that does not mean he has to be active on game day. Yeldon offers so much more than Gore in terms of pass catching ability and speed to the edge. If Gore wasn't 3rd all time rusher he would not be active on Sunday. He is getting the nod based on respect not ability. Would it make much difference on Sunday? I don't know but it's yet another in a long line of personnel decisions that are head scratchers. What says the board? At least next time they have 1st and goal in side the five, please use Gore as a decoy. Everyone knows that he is getting the ball and he has been more liekly to lose yards than gain any. If Yeldon can’t beat Gore I don’t even want to see him play. We obviously made a huge mistake with Wade and we need to pray that Singletary can stay healthy. We we will be totally one dimensional if Singletary goes down.
wvbillsfan Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Um, because he physically just can't? Lee Smith runs like a busted mower in high grass. Dimarco isn't Hayden Hurst, but he has had a couple nice runs and he gets downfield fast on teams. He’s had three carries for 7 yards runs a 4.9 40 and executes a vast majority of his blocks with 3 yards of the line Saying Lee Smith physically can’t do that ....in the sense that he’s a walking penalty I will agree physically can’t execute the blocks dimarco does I will disagree
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 Why were Yeldon and Duke signed if they could make the team but not be utilized?
John from Riverside Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: See above. The same thing has been posted over several threads for weeks. You could have easily looked it up yourself before you posted the same fallacy. And you could have easily looked down the thread before you posted this
jlgarsh Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 On 12/9/2019 at 12:47 AM, I am the egg man said: Yeldon- 6 fumbles, 656 touches. One fumble per 109 touches. Gore- 45 fumbles, 3,997 touches. One fumble per 88 touches. What's apparent JoPo Gore's a higher fumble risk than Yeldon. Gore came into the league with a bit of a fumbling issue. His last 10+ seasons he's fumbled 23 times, vs 22 in his first 5 years. He's also been very durable during that 10 year span.
Spiderweb Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Jacksonville loved him as a third down back for his catching and pass blocking Youre saying he forgot how how to do that? Doubtful. They didn't love him enough to want to keep him, did they?
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Why were Yeldon and Duke signed if they could make the team but not be utilized? Depth...? People get injured in the NFL
billsfan_34 Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 11:14 PM, Ethan in Portland said: I have been fairly vocal that cutting McCoy was a mistake. I was fine with the Gore signing but not at the expense of cutting Shady. Now 13 games into the season, it is clear Gore has nothing left. He is not contributing anything on the field. Let's assume he is a good locker room presence. Well that does not mean he has to be active on game day. Yeldon offers so much more than Gore in terms of pass catching ability and speed to the edge. If Gore wasn't 3rd all time rusher he would not be active on Sunday. He is getting the nod based on respect not ability. Would it make much difference on Sunday? I don't know but it's yet another in a long line of personnel decisions that are head scratchers. What says the board? At least next time they have 1st and goal in side the five, please use Gore as a decoy. Everyone knows that he is getting the ball and he has been more liekly to lose yards than gain any. I concur 3 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said: I’m actually curious if a “week off” like Reid did with McCoy would help Gore bounce back down the stretch. Some of these older guys still have ability, but the workload and rest cycles need tweaking if they aren’t going to crash. Rest Gore, play Yeldon. 1
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 On 12/9/2019 at 12:52 PM, Rocbillsfan1 said: Singletary should play the role Sony Michel does in NE and yeldon the role of white. Maybe keep gore activated in case of emergency but that’s it he’s pretty much toast. Let's mimic an offense other than New England's this year.
Rocbillsfan1 Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 58 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: Let's mimic an offense other than New England's this year. I know we hate ne but it makes sense in terms of roles for the rbs
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: I know we hate ne but it makes sense in terms of roles for the rbs It's not really NE hate so much as they are not a good offense this season. But I get your point.
Rocbillsfan1 Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: It's not really NE hate so much as they are not a good offense this season. But I get your point. Well they’ve been pretty good for a while including last season with the same rbs.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Spiderweb said: They didn't love him enough to want to keep him, did they? So because they didn’t offer him a new contract and instead drafted a guy similar to Fournette Yeldon can’t catch or pass block? All I’m suggesting here is he might provide a little more spark than gore.
BarleyNY Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 7 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Jacksonville loved him as a third down back for his catching and pass blocking Youre saying he forgot how how to do that? Doubtful. I wonder if it has to do with Yeldon’s pass blocking. Some here have said that he’s poor at it. Assuming that’s true, then you would not want him on the field much these days since most teams are blitzing the ***** out of Allen pretty much constantly.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 On 12/9/2019 at 7:58 AM, HardyBoy said: Because you don't let a top 50 rb go in the middle of the season. Likely wouldn't make it that far through waivers, but can you imagine if the Pats got him right now. he hasn’t been a top 50 run in years. he was horrible running in the preseason and his only savings grace was he could catch the ball.
vincec Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 7 hours ago, dneveu said: Just feel like that positions lacking any type of home run threat. Well more speed never hurts. That's for sure.
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