whorlnut Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 It’s so clear to me what we really need to take the next step...offensive weapons. I love John Brown, but he’s more of a WR2. Beasley is our slot guy, that can’t be argued. We need a tall WR that can go get it in the end zone at the end of games. IMO that’s what we need to target above all else this draft. In addition, we could really use a RT. I think Ford will finally be moved inside next year, but we need a true RT. We could look at FA, or in the draft. Either way it’s a huge need. We also need a second RB. Motor has been really good, but we need some reliability when he needs to catch his breath. I’m thinking maybe the fourth or fifth to find this guy. I say all this to plead and beg Beane to upgrade the offense this off-season. Please resist the urge to draft defense in round one and get a real playmaker for this offense. It’s what we need to round out this offense and make us a more complete football team. I get the potential need for pass rusher, but we can’t use all our premium picks on defense each year and expect to keep up with opposing offenses. 4 1 1
Rad Likes The Bills Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 The value on WR is better in Rd 2. Now we will be drafting later in the first so maybe that’s the range where we might swing but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Beane go Edge Rd 1 and trade up Rd 2 and get his WR. That’s just based off tendency and this regime loves Defense on cost controlled contracts 3
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) Highly doubt many teams worry about the Bills passing game too much when they know or #2 WR is McKenzie. He should be the #4 or 5 who plays a few plays bringing in some special surprise type plays. Overall would prefer they draft a pass rushing De in the 1st round as they are harder to find in FA. Draft a WR in the 2nd or 3rd, but also sign a good FA WR who starts next year. WR often takes some time to develop, would rather not rely on a rookie for that. Also draft one O lineman, tackle preferred. Don't sign Spain and move Ford inside. Edited December 9, 2019 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch 4 1
whorlnut Posted December 9, 2019 Author Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Rad Likes The Bills said: The value on WR is better in Rd 2. Now we will be drafting later in the first so maybe that’s the range where we might swing but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Beane go Edge Rd 1 and trade up Rd 2 and get his WR. That’s just based off tendency and this regime loves Defense on cost controlled contracts That’s exactly what I’m afraid of. Meanwhile, we get to choose from the second tier of WRs because all McD wants is elite defenders. 1 minute ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Highly doubt many teams worry about the Bills passing game too much when they know or #2 WR is McKenzie. He should be the 34 or 5 who plays a few plays bringing in some special surprise type plays. Exactly. And they are all small. Nobody to allow them to go up and win a 50/50 ball. If we had that guy, that would have come in handy at the end of today’s game. 1
Penfield45 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 franchise LT and WR needed. Also new RT needed. we need at least 2 new WR's 2
CaptnCoke11 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Desperately need another outside WR and a RT 3
whorlnut Posted December 9, 2019 Author Posted December 9, 2019 They just can’t keep upgrading the defense when it’s already elite at the expense of not using premium resources on the offense.
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 by no means is TE solved. Knox has hands of stone and the ball bounces off his f'kin chest. Sweeney barely made the team, Kroft is a non-factor and Croom is not the answer. 6
MAJBobby Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Outside WR Another TE RT and probably a OG RB those are all needs on Offense 4
mannc Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, whorlnut said: It’s so clear to me what we really need to take the next step...offensive weapons. I love John Brown, but he’s more of a WR2. Beasley is our slot guy, that can’t be argued. We need a tall WR that can go get it in the end zone at the end of games. IMO that’s what we need to target above all else this draft. In addition, we could really use a RT. I think Ford will finally be moved inside next year, but we need a true RT. We could look at FA, or in the draft. Either way it’s a huge need. We also need a second RB. Motor has been really good, but we need some reliability when he needs to catch his breath. I’m thinking maybe the fourth or fifth to find this guy. I say all this to plead and beg Beane to upgrade the offense this off-season. Please resist the urge to draft defense in round one and get a real playmaker for this offense. It’s what we need to round out this offense and make us a more complete football team. I get the potential need for pass rusher, but we can’t use all our premium picks on defense each year and expect to keep up with opposing offenses. This is inarguable. Our defense really can’t play any better than it’s played this year. With an above average offense, we’d be 11-2 or better. And no, we don’t desperately need an edge rusher, although would be nice if we signed one in FA. We are generating more than enough pressure.
MAJBobby Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: by no means is TE solved. Knox has hands of stone and the ball bounces off his f'kin chest. Sweeney barely made the team, Kroft is a non-factor and Croom is not the answer. Not according to Pegula Daughter Edited December 9, 2019 by MAJBobby 1 2
mannc Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: franchise LT and WR needed. Also new RT needed. we need at least 2 new WR's Yep. We need to draft 2 WRs, a RB and probably another TE.
GETTOTHE50 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Rather get a vet WR than someone in the draft unless they are an absolute blue chip like a AJ green/Megatron/Julio. Bill Belisuckmydick cant even pluck and develop a good WR from the draft. It’s smarter to get a vet.
MAJBobby Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Rather get a vet WR than someone in the draft unless they are an absolute blue chip like a AJ green/Megatron/Julio. Bill Belisuckmydick cant even pluck and develop a good WR from the draft. It’s smarter to get a vet. those Vets Never hit the market and cost a TON of they do. and don’t give me AJ Green. Old and Broke 1
klos63 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, whorlnut said: It’s so clear to me what we really need to take the next step...offensive weapons. I love John Brown, but he’s more of a WR2. Beasley is our slot guy, that can’t be argued. We need a tall WR that can go get it in the end zone at the end of games. IMO that’s what we need to target above all else this draft. In addition, we could really use a RT. I think Ford will finally be moved inside next year, but we need a true RT. We could look at FA, or in the draft. Either way it’s a huge need. We also need a second RB. Motor has been really good, but we need some reliability when he needs to catch his breath. I’m thinking maybe the fourth or fifth to find this guy. I say all this to plead and beg Beane to upgrade the offense this off-season. Please resist the urge to draft defense in round one and get a real playmaker for this offense. It’s what we need to round out this offense and make us a more complete football team. I get the potential need for pass rusher, but we can’t use all our premium picks on defense each year and expect to keep up with opposing offenses. It would also be helpful if Allen can throw accurately downfield. If he can't , might not matter too much who our #1 WR is. There is a huge chunk of the defensive backfield that might not worry the defense too much. That's a problem. 1
whorlnut Posted December 9, 2019 Author Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Rather get a vet WR than someone in the draft unless they are an absolute blue chip like a AJ green/Megatron/Julio. Bill Belisuckmydick cant even pluck and develop a good WR from the draft. It’s smarter to get a vet. This is sort of my point. We need a blue chip WR. Someone like Tee Higgins. I don’t want to wait till the second round to get leftovers. Get the guy you love and feel can help take this offense to the next level.
Best Player Available Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 It seems the Bills have not had a dominant TE in over 20 years. That should be an early round priority. If a prospect falls to them.
whorlnut Posted December 9, 2019 Author Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, klos63 said: It would also be helpful if Allen can throw accurately downfield. If he can't , might not matter too much who our #1 WR is. There is a huge chunk of the defensive backfield that might not worry the defense too much. That's a problem. I have more than enough confidence that Allen will straighten this issue out this off-season. Last off-season it was about the short to intermediate stuff and now it’s a strength. 1 minute ago, Best Player Available said: It seems the Bills have not had a dominant TE in over 20 years. That should be an early round priority. If a prospect falls to them. This is a crappy TE crop coming out from what I understand.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 I’m going to get killed for this but they will draft BPA mixed with Need. WR DE CB OT OLB/Edge Will all be in play for the first 3 rounds. We will also have FA to help us see which way they will go early in the draft.
klos63 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, whorlnut said: I have more than enough confidence that Allen will straighten this issue out this off-season. Last off-season it was about the short to intermediate stuff and now it’s a strength. This is a crappy TE crop coming out from what I understand. Would be nice if he worked on that during the season. It's really shocking to see an NFL QB so bad at the deep pass. I don't recall any other QB having these kinds of problems.
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