Week 15: Bills at Steelers on SNF

[YoloinOhio]

7 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Yeah but just read through that guy's feed a little and it's pretty obvious he's their janitor who tricked Twitter into the blue check, I was more talking about the people who actually do something football related at PFF

Haha his claim to fame is that he was a contestant on the Bachelorette

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Should we all have turkey again on Sunday for good luck ?

 

Oooh, good point.  We had lasagna and cheesecake before the Dallas game.  Perhaps I should serve that Sunday.

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

4 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

JuJu looks like he might be out.

 

Or not

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, Bangarang said:

I better not see you quoting PFF or DVOA when Allen and this offense become elite.

 

Fair

[YoloinOhio]

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Oooh, good point.  We had lasagna and cheesecake before the Dallas game.  Perhaps I should serve that Sunday.

 

 

Or not

 

 

I think that regarding juju, he will play. I don’t think he or Conner are 100% though and it’s maybe preferable to have some hobbled guys out there.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

45 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Looks like percentage for precipitation went from 10% yesterday to 40% today. Looks like could be a rain/snow mix.
Does Pitts get lake effect like Buffalo? 

 

That would be "No", on the grounds that they aren't on or near a lake

Currently alleged to be high of 37, low of 30, partly cloudy.

 

But, rain Fri and Sat (just rain - not mix) and Mon/Tues after a warm front comes through, so it all depends on how fast said front boogies along.

[ColoradoBills]

57 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Do people know that watching games is still the best way to evaluate players and a teams performance?

 

It would seem not.

[snamsnoops]

3 hours ago, Greg S said:

http://www.gridiron-uniforms.com/GUD/controller/controller.php?action=main

 

White over blue it is.

I'll take any thing over red on red!

[Tesla03]

2 hours ago, Big C said:

So we lose a hard fought battle with the ravens and all of a sudden everyone thinks we won't be able to handle Duck? I get their defense is tough but we should win this game.

 

no one is worried about our defense 

 

ppl are concerned about Dabboll calling another poor game and Allen not being able to beat a top defense. 

[Warcodered]

52 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Awesome. Duck is from the south. 

Nope . 

 

 

Meanwhile Dak is crushing it with back to back weeks over 300.?

[GoBills808]

6 minutes ago, Tesla03 said:

 

no one is worried about our defense 

 

ppl are concerned about Dabboll calling another poor game and Allen not being able to beat a top defense. 

Already beat Dallas so no worries there

[YoloinOhio]

4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Already beat Dallas so no worries there

And Denver 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

8 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Already beat Dallas so no worries there

 

right now (on points):

Titans #9

Broncos #10

Cowboys #12 (higher when we played 'em)

 

I think both the Broncos and Titans were higher when we played 'em?

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

And Denver 

And the Jets

Oh wait and the Titans too

 

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

right now (on points):

Titans #9

Broncos #10

Cowboys #12 (higher when we played 'em)

 

I think both the Broncos and Titans were higher when we played 'em

I don't use points a lot tbh

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

And the Jets

Oh wait and the Titans too

 

I don't use points a lot tbh

 

First thing I look at.  Points win games.  But if a D is legit, shouldn't be much discrepency between points and yds, if there is, "Something is Happening"

Jets for example. 

#7 D on Yards

#19 on Points

Hmmmmmm....

 

"Something is Happening" can mean D starts with poor field position a lot due to ST or turnovers

Or O or ST give up points

 

Dunno what's up with Jets, haven't looked (yet)

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

First thing I look at.  Points win games.

Yeh but point don't tell a good story imo. The Bills made the Ravens take, what, like 8 plays to score after the Allen sack fumble on our own 25? Like 3 yards/play but if you just look @points it's 7 regardless

 

Also some total pt lines include special teams points, nothing to do w/defense

[atlbillsfan1975]

29 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

That would be "No", on the grounds that they aren't on or near a lake

Currently alleged to be high of 37, low of 30, partly cloudy.

 

But, rain Fri and Sat (just rain - not mix) and Mon/Tues after a warm front comes through, so it all depends on how fast said front boogies along.

You are right. I didn’t realize Pittsburgh was over 130 miles from Lake Erie, been awhile since I’ve been up that way. 
Lake Effect snow can only travel up to 100 miles. 

[CincyBillsFan]

The thing that drives me nuts is the notion that Allen is a turnover machine.  From the link on page 21 of this thread:

 

Let's look at some QB's rated equal to or better then Allen on this list and focus on their total TD's and total TO's:

Watson =  31/12

Jimmy G =  26/16

Dak Prescott =  27/12

Ryan =  23/16

Wentz =  23/13

Carr = 19/11

Allen = 25/12

 

Now lets throw out a couple of names who are rated lower then Allen but aren't called TO machines:

Rivers =  20/17

Goff =  17/19

Mayfield =  19/18

Minshew =  15/12

Darnold =  17/12

Kyle Allen =  18/19

 

Now lets look at the whole list (31 players) and focus on those that have as many or more fumbles then "fumble prone Josh Allen":

Rodgers =  4

Jimmy G =  5

Ryan =  4

Wentz =  6

Goff =  5

Winston = 5

Minshew =  7

Kyle Allen =  7

 

To be clear I left out the elite QB's who have much better numbers then Allen.  But Allen isn't elite YET.  But the notion that he's a TO machine is rubbish and the numbers prove it.

 

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

You are right. I didn’t realize Pittsburgh was over 130 miles from Lake Erie, been awhile since I’ve been up that way. 
Lake Effect snow can only travel up to 100 miles. 

 

It's not just distance, it's direction, prevailing wind direction, and topography.

Pittsburgh SE of Cleveland with some hilly country between 'em

 

[Stank_Nasty]

27 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

The thing that drives me nuts is the notion that Allen is a turnover machine.  From the link on page 21 of this thread:

 

Let's look at some QB's rated equal to or better then Allen on this list and focus on their total TD's and total TO's:

Watson =  31/12

Jimmy G =  26/16

Dak Prescott =  27/12

Ryan =  23/16

Wentz =  23/13

Carr = 19/11

Allen = 25/12

 

Now lets throw out a couple of names who are rated lower then Allen but aren't called TO machines:

Rivers =  20/17

Goff =  17/19

Mayfield =  19/18

Minshew =  15/12

Darnold =  17/12

Kyle Allen =  18/19

 

Now lets look at the whole list (31 players) and focus on those that have as many or more fumbles then "fumble prone Josh Allen":

Rodgers =  4

Jimmy G =  5

Ryan =  4

Wentz =  6

Goff =  5

Winston = 5

Minshew =  7

Kyle Allen =  7

 

To be clear I left out the elite QB's who have much better numbers then Allen.  But Allen isn't elite YET.  But the notion that he's a TO machine is rubbish and the numbers prove it.

 

 

 

He’s only got 12 total to’s in 13 games. I just don’t understand how the narrative is still around. 
 

I’m curious of how many qb’s actually average more than his .92 per game. I bet Allen is simply middle of the pack. 
 

I think it’s partly because the proclamations of the “experts” were so bold and over the top with him that they are clinging for dear life to their old assertions.... notice that it NEVER gets mentioned that there are a mere 6 qb’s in the whole NFL with more total td’s? After all, isn’t that what the position is all about? Scoring freaking tds!!! Here’s the start of that list: 
 

Jackson

Watson

Wilson

Winston

prescott

Jimmy G

..... JOSH FRIGGIN ALLEN! 

Edited December 13, 2019 by Stank_Nasty