Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/06/michael-bloomberg-cory-booker-well-spoken I thought I was misreading something when I initially saw this headline. Apparently, we're not allowed to call a minority individual "well-spoken" for fear that our compliment is actually a backhanded insult. I seriously can't with this culture anymore. At some point, we need to stop trying to be offended at things. And this is coming from a left-leaning independent. Trying to compliment a minority? Forget it, I guess. "You look nice!" Response: Are you saying that black people don't usually look nice? "You're very well spoken." Response: What, are you saying that's unusual? "You're really good at fixing things!" Response: What, does that surprise you? ?
/dev/null Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 To prevent any future racially insensitive remarks, I propose that all greetings, farewells, and compliments be replaced with Bah weep Graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong 1
Koko78 Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 2:01 AM, /dev/null said: To prevent any future racially insensitive remarks, I propose that all greetings, farewells, and compliments be replaced with Bah weep Graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong Expand Stop culturally appropriating Junkions, you fascist #######. 1
Chef Jim Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 2:01 AM, /dev/null said: To prevent any future racially insensitive remarks, I propose that all greetings, farewells, and compliments be replaced with Bah weep Graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong Expand I’m going with Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn. 1 1
Nanker Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 This could have gone in the “Hate Crime or Hoax” thread. I’m old enough to remember when you could not praise an African American NFL QB for his athleticism. You had to praise his intelligence or else your comments were considered racist.
/dev/null Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 2:38 AM, Chef Jim said: I’m going with Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn. Expand llie n'vanima ar' lle atara lanneina
3rdnlng Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 2:41 AM, Nanker said: This could have gone in the “Hate Crime or Hoax” thread. I’m old enough to remember when you could not praise an African American NFL QB for his athleticism. You had to praise his intelligence or else your comments were considered racist. Expand Well my old pappy used to say: "If you can't say anything nice about someone, don't say anything at all".
Bakin Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 This is the absolute stupidest news story of the week - and that’s saying a lot. Not sure who I hate more - Booker for calling Bloomberg’s compliment a ‘trope’ or Bloomberg for apologizing. What a *****.
US Egg Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 Excellent and spot on thread by the OP. But he needs to adjust to their world to feel accepted.
row_33 Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 1:56 AM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/06/michael-bloomberg-cory-booker-well-spoken I thought I was misreading something when I initially saw this headline. Apparently, we're not allowed to call a minority individual "well-spoken" for fear that our compliment is actually a backhanded insult. I seriously can't with this culture anymore. At some point, we need to stop trying to be offended at things. And this is coming from a left-leaning independent. Trying to compliment a minority? Forget it, I guess. "You look nice!" Response: Are you saying that black people don't usually look nice? "You're very well spoken." Response: What, are you saying that's unusual? "You're really good at fixing things!" Response: What, does that surprise you? ? Expand best to keep any thoughts to yourself only stating them when you are in a guaranteed safe zone of conversation
Prickly Pete Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 I generally agree with the sentiment, but I have to ask, how often does anyone here use the term "well spoken" to describe anyone?
Doc Brown Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 This came up a lot when Obama was running. The assumption is that white people are surprised that a black person can be "well spoken." It's just a phrase you have to avoid if you're in the public light. Like it or not. I think Biden had to apologize to Obama in the '07 primaries for similar wording.
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 8, 2019 Author Posted December 8, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 8:56 AM, Doc Brown said: This came up a lot when Obama was running. The assumption is that white people are surprised that a black person can be "well spoken." It's just a phrase you have to avoid if you're in the public light. Like it or not. I think Biden had to apologize to Obama in the '07 primaries for similar wording. Expand I understand the assumption (see examples of other compliments in OP), but it's just ridiculous. I'm not sure how one is supposed to know what's offensive and what's not. Someone needs to put out a Guide to Theoretically Insensitive Terms so we can all get smart. @32ABBA I've actually used this term quite a bit (and have been on the receiving end of it as well), and I had no idea it was "racist" until Booker.
Doc Brown Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 10:49 AM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I understand the assumption (see examples of other compliments in OP), but it's just ridiculous. I'm not sure how one is supposed to know what's offensive and what's not. Someone needs to put out a Guide to Theoretically Insensitive Terms so we can all get smart. @32ABBA I've actually used this term quite a bit (and have been on the receiving end of it as well), and I had no idea it was "racist" until Booker. Expand I'm sure you can do a google search and educate yourself.
4merper4mer Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 2:01 AM, /dev/null said: To prevent any future racially insensitive remarks, I propose that all greetings, farewells, and compliments be replaced with Bah weep Graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong Expand You can't appropriate that phrase. It's what Bob says when he is super stoned and wants another hit.
Foxx Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 10:49 AM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: ... I've actually used this term quite a bit (and have been on the receiving end of it as well), and I had no idea it was "racist" until Booker. Expand seriously... have you been living under a rock for the last 20 years?
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 8, 2019 Author Posted December 8, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 12:39 PM, Foxx said: seriously... have you been living under a rock for the last 20 years? Expand Evidently 1
row_33 Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 8:56 AM, Doc Brown said: This came up a lot when Obama was running. The assumption is that white people are surprised that a black person can be "well spoken." It's just a phrase you have to avoid if you're in the public light. Like it or not. I think Biden had to apologize to Obama in the '07 primaries for similar wording. Expand Colin Powell, was said to “speak so well...” Chris Rock has a good riff on that back then 1
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