OIG FISA Report Discussion and the real reason for the FBI Mar-a-Lago raid

[Foxx]

7 minutes ago, B-Man said:

All those quotes regarding Comey and Schiff's interviews this morning were quite interesting. ....

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would like to see the clip where he says he is not going to testify.

Edited December 15, 2019 by Foxx

[Foxx]

21 minutes ago, Foxx said:

+1

would like to see the clip where he says he is not going to testify.

he doesn't exactly say he won't testify. he just regurgitates his oft cited mantra that he is not a fact witness.

 

should be queued up at the relevant portion.

https://youtu.be/iaBQFtH1b4E?t=1970

 

Edited December 15, 2019 by Foxx

[3rdnlng]

2 minutes ago, Foxx said:

he doesn't exactly say he won't testify. he just regurgitates he oft cited mantra that he is not a fact witness.

 

should be queued up at the relevant portion.

https://youtu.be/iaBQFtH1b4E?t=1970

 

I thought not being a fact witness was the dems criteria. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

Too late now, James.

 

 

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....wonder what the hell prompted "mea culpas"?............seance with J Edgar??............

[Koko78]

40 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

I thought not being a fact witness was the dems criteria. 

 

Nonsense. They're all about demanding fairness in the Senate... (mostly because they can't control the proceedings.)

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

29 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

Nonsense. They're all about demanding fairness in the Senate... (mostly because they can't control the proceedings.)

 

 

...shouldn't demonstrated "fairness" in the House carry over to the Senate?.............

[Koko78]

10 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...shouldn't demonstrated "fairness" in the House carry over to the Senate?.............

 

I suspect that's what Chuckie is afraid of.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

I suspect that's what Chuckie is afraid of.

 

...another one of our NYS political "downstate gems"....I'm all for Albany relocating to Rikers.......Bruno and Silver can be the doormen.............

[Buffalo_Gal]

2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

Ratcliffe has an excellent point ... what would a prosecutor do if this was a Georgie P or someone "lesser" like him?  And that is exactly what gets the average schmoe pissed off; there are two tiers of justice in this country. That needs to end.

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Ratcliffe has an excellent point ... what would a prosecutor do if this was a Georgie P or someone "lesser" like him?  And that is exactly what gets the average schmoe pissed off; there are two tiers of justice in this country. That needs to end.

 

 

...which is why I fear the entire mess ends up in "let's kiss and make up....bygones be bygones....we promise to do better"......at the same time, I hope the voracity of Bulldog Durham and AG Barr see this through in its entirety.....Barr will be labeled a political, partisan hack as will Durham...interesting though that Durham was handed several high profile matters by former AG Holder......so how will that counter that?.....

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited December 16, 2019 by B-Man

[snafu]

Horowitz FISA Book report:

Crossfire Hurricane investigation was handed over to Mueller.

At the time that the investigation was handed over, the FBI had nothing on anyone, in spite of (1) tracking Carte Page while having no predicate to do so, and (2) having interviewed Mifsud — and knowing he wasn’t a Russian asset, and (3) after interviewing Steele’s main source of info and finding out he fed b.s. to Steele.  Mueller had to have known all of that yet he took two years to make his report. There was nothing to hand over. There was nothing to build on. It was all a sham.  

 

Where’s the report that justifies any of this?

 

 

Edited December 16, 2019 by snafu

[B-Man]

James Comey still won’t admit the truth

New York Post, by Editorial

 

Original Article

 

So former FBI chief Jim Comey finally admits the glaringly obvious: “I was overconfident as director in our procedures” in getting a warrant to wiretap a Trump campaign aide and the bureau’s behavior “was not acceptable.” Comey came to this belated mea culpa during a tough Sunday interview by Fox News’ Chris Wallace, after a damning report from Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz, which slammed “the entire chain of command” under Comey for major “performance failures.”

 

Yet, while Comey has accepted the basic facts Horowitz uncovered — even saying, “He’s right, I was wrong” — he is still in deep denial on key IG findings.

 

 

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

Trey Gowdy On Comey’s Admission He Was Wrong: ‘It’s Just Too Damn Late.’

 

 

 

OK, CHIEF: Comey Attributes FISA Abuses to ‘Sloppiness,’ Distances Himself from Russia Probe.

 

 

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[snafu]

10 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

OK, CHIEF: Comey Attributes FISA Abuses to ‘Sloppiness,’ Distances Himself from Russia Probe.

 

 

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Uh-huh...

I just read this in the report:

 

“Corney said his level of involvement in Crossfire Hurricane was similar to some cases and dissimilar to others. He said:
I would put [cases in] three buckets. One, cases they'd never tell me about because of a judgment by the leadership chain that it wasn't for the Director to know. Cases that I would be told about, simply to be aware of. And then cases, the third category would be cases that I was told about and, in some detail, and kept informed of as the investigation went on. Crossfire Hurricane was in that third bucket.”

 

 

That third bucket was was filled with slop.

 

[B-Man]

REALCLEARINVESTIGATIONS: IG Report Undercuts Credibility of Impeachment Manager Nadler.

 

Democratic Rep. Jerry Nadler, the House Judiciary Committee chairman who has drawn up articles of impeachment accusing President Trump of abusing his power, last year falsely accused a Trump campaign aide of being a Russian spy who helped Moscow interfere in the 2016 election — an accusation the Justice Department’s watchdog declared unfounded in his newly released report.

 

Nadler made the accusation in a letter distributed on Capitol Hill in early 2018. In the same document, he also defended the FBI for obtaining a highly invasive FISA warrant to wiretap the Trump aide, Carter Page. The watchdog now concludes that this warrant, renewed three times, was obtained under false pretenses.

 

The Democratic leader — who’s expected to argue the impeachment case before the Senate next month — dismissed as “a conspiracy theory” the president’s characterization of the FBI spying as an “abuse” of the government’s surveillance powers.

 

Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz found the FBI did in fact abuse its authority, including withholding exculpatory evidence from its spy warrant on Page and subsequent renewals — including one in which the evidence was falsified by an FBI lawyer whom Horowitz referred for criminal investigation.

 

Capitol Hill sources say the inspector general’s scathing report uncovering FBI misconduct undercuts Nadler’s credibility as a prosecutor for the impeachment case.

 

 

 

I mean, to the extent that he had any before, yeah

 

 

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[Koko78]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

REALCLEARINVESTIGATIONS: IG Report Undercuts Credibility of Impeachment Manager Nadler.

Capitol Hill sources say the inspector general’s scathing report uncovering FBI misconduct undercuts Nadler’s credibility as a prosecutor for the impeachment case.

 

I mean, to the extent that he had any before, yeah

 

Wait a second. We're past the House investigation and on to how unfair the Senate is going to treat the trial. There are Senators who are calling bullschiff on the evidence without fully exploring the version of truth put forth by Nadler and Schiff! That's totally unfair to the Democrats who must have Trump removed so that they can win in November!

[B-Man]

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

The Horowitz Report: Documenting One of the Worst Scandals of our History.

 

 

 

 

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[Buffalo_Gal]

Horowitz is back to the Senate. 

Right now, in his opening statement, Ron Johnson is getting a lot of names into the Congressional records. 

https://www.c-span.org/networks/?channel=c-span-3