TtownBillsFan Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 12 hours ago, ALF said: I would be ok with the Senate not calling witnesses and then acquittal of Trump if they don't censor Bolton's book and let him talk freely to the media. Pretty sure that'll happen, save for any, truly, national security stuff. 1
TtownBillsFan Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 9 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Terrible. Wtf, why? Why draw this bs out? Why would the r's agree to anything of the sort?!! 1
TtownBillsFan Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 5 hours ago, dubs said: Shane, Shane, shane! Oh, shame? Yeah, shame! 5
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 7 hours ago, B-Man said: Who cares what you think Kerr? Stick to basketball. 4
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Bob in Mich said: The above reference to McCarthy reminded me of an article I read years ago in the Ann Arbor News. I think it applies a bit today as I think the Senate today failed us. Robert Faber wrote a terrific piece recently in which he states that McCarthy’s reign ‘was an embarrassment to our constitution, to our traditions and to the high moral code we like to believe is inherently ours’. He goes on to say ‘We shall always have our fools and ideologues in positions of power, but our system of laws and logic, of checks and balances, is designed to guard against the abuses of ..power, to protect the weakest from the more powerful... If the elected of our democracy, for reasons of greed or power or cowardice, fail in that task, that is the more troubling threat. It was McCarthy’s colleagues who let us down, by failing in their obligation to uphold the spirit and intent and integrity of our democratic system.’ I think it was the great philosophizer T. L. Skin-erd who said, while quoting Bob while quoting Faber “Checks and balances” work best when you recognize the “checks” and embrace the “balances”. They should not be viewed as sacrosanct when they support your view and inconvenient when they do not.” 3
/dev/null Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Foxx said: caption this: where's Willie? I was talking to Nancy who knows Willie, and Willie said before you got involved with the "Hashtag Me too" thing, you were all into the "Pound Me Too" #metoo 3
SoCal Deek Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 Clinton was only impeached after a long Independent Counsel investigation found wrong doing. Clinton was only impeached after being charged with numerous crimes (albeit not high crimes). Clinton was only impeached after a bipartisan vote in the house. And still, the system worked and he was acquitted! So much so that he was a whisker away from being back in the White House as the First Man. None of the above was true with Trump. History will show that this was a really badly bungled attempt by an out of control House majority to take out a political rival by ‘publicly announcing an investigation to dig up dirt on a political rival before a pending election’....which is EXACTLY what they accused the President of doing. 3 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 10 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: He was a witness for the Republicans in the House impeachment hearing regarding the constitutionality of their charges. He is considered a constitutional scholar. Don't call him Turkey, his name is Turley. The Turkey I think was an autocorrect- I was not bashing him- I think he was missing the reason.
Bob in Mich Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I think it was the great philosophizer T. L. Skin-erd who said, while quoting Bob while quoting Faber “Checks and balances” work best when you recognize the “checks” and embrace the “balances”. They should not be viewed as sacrosanct when they support your view and inconvenient when they do not.” Lacy, that take is a bit unfair, especially if you read any of that 1999 email I posted a page or so back. Given that I have been for impeaching both Clinton and Trump, that last sentence is a little odd. You may think I am too naive for expecting a higher standard but my views have been consistent as I have opposed misdeeds in both Presidencies. I have not heard many here that stated they were either for impeaching both times or acquitting both but I have more respect for those that can be consistent and see right and wrong, in spite of the party of the President. What were your 1999 impeachment thoughts......for or against removing BillyC? Why or why not? http://www.annarbor.com/news/opinion/a-matter-of-principles-keeping-the-new-joe-mccarthys-at-bay-by-learning-the-lessons-of-our-past/ Edited February 1, 2020 by Bob in Mich
/dev/null Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 46 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: The Turkey I think was an autocorrect 1 1
snafu Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 6 hours ago, TtownBillsFan said: Snafu- how could the right 'lift themselves out of the muck' in this instance? You seem a generally levelheaded person. But in this matter, how could the 'right ' have made you happy/demonstrated they were rising above? I contend, there's nothing they could have reasonably done to make you happy. I think you're a contrarian, happiest when you can complain about both sides. I was speaking in general tones. That was a rant. I don’t do that often. You’re correct that this sham bus is driven by the Left. The Right couldn’t do much but complain, and complain they did every chance they got. I would have done the same thing, except perhaps use different people to complain — and focus on different things to complain about. Truth be told, I’m not at all unhappy about what the Right did. And I’m wayyyyy more pissed off about what the Left is doing. You’re also correct that I do complain about both sides but that’s because both Left and Right do things that annoy me. It annoys me that our elected officials in Washington focus more on scoring political points than governing. That goes for both the Left and the Right. It’s the reason I kept posting that Ethel Merman quote every day. It’s a show where all they do is take your money and it shouldn’t be a money-grabbing show. I wouldn’t go do far as to call myself a contrarian. If that’s the worst I get around here, I’ll take it. I’ll do me, you do you. It makes this forum interesting. 3 1
Albwan Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, TtownBillsFan said: Wtf, why? Why draw this bs out? Why would the r's agree to anything of the sort?!! It gives the 'rats time to plan and drop more bombshells 1 hour ago, Foxx said: caption this: where's Willie? That's a huge blunt bro!!!! Edited February 1, 2020 by Albwan 1
3rdnlng Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said: The Turkey I think was an autocorrect- I was not bashing him- I think he was missing the reason. I was just busting your balls because of your typo but blaming it on autocorrect is kind of weakshit. 9 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: What's your point?
Bob in Mich Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Good God! The witnesses are needed in spite of impossible conviction in order to find out the truth so we can agree going forward what is legal and what is illegal. You should consider a name change to Pootie Tang in Mich. Got so busy trying to reply to posts yesterday and I didn't take time to watch this. Pretty funny. The name change though.....I may consider it. I have thought of that before but then I have seen others get jumped on as trying to hide from past identities. Given that 'much revered' cannabis thread that I began, I don't want to lose all that good will and board admiration that I had ...er, I mean, I think I would never hear the end from the 'running away are ya?' idiots. So, probably stuck with this handle and , btw, I see we have similar taste in avatars. Did ya get that brain rest last night? lol Edited February 1, 2020 by Bob in Mich 1
Bob in Mich Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I was just busting your balls because of your typo but blaming it on autocorrect is kind of weakshit. What's your point? Morning, Hank. Can I call you Hank or do you insist on Henry? lol It is about 2 minute but if short on time, the 1 minute 40 second mark approximately is kinda funny given where they have gone after that point. 1
Foxx Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 https://twitter.com/rising_serpent/status/1223427807067484161 1 1
Bob in Mich Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: That is funny. I am certain it was because I recently watched some Lord of the Rings but when I saw those two side by side marching the Impeachment docs to the Senate, I was struck with short, Gimli and the Lanky Legolis grimly taking on their quest. Nadler must put double face tape around his 'waist' to hold those pants up
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