Foxx Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: #orangemanbad blah blah blah no. when there is a dispute between the two branches of government, it is up to the third branch, in this case the Judiciary to settle the dispute. 2
SoCal Deek Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Foxx said: no. when there is a dispute between the two branches of government, it is up to the third branch, in this case the Judiciary to settle the dispute. Correct It’s absolutely stunning how ignorant people are of how our government is structured. 1
row_33 Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Foxx said: no. when there is a dispute between the two branches of government, it is up to the third branch, in this case the Judiciary to settle the dispute. The People decides with the Karl Malone's Atomic Elbow on the Zeke-ish Dems
Albwan Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 LOLOLOLOLOL....Turtle smirkin + trollin at :42 5
Tiberius Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 35 minutes ago, Foxx said: no. when there is a dispute between the two branches of government, it is up to the third branch, in this case the Judiciary to settle the dispute. That's why Roberts needs to do his duty to the Constitution
Cinga Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: If they really have overwhelming evidence, why do we need to hear from ANY witnesses? Just send this evidence to the Senate, and let them vote.. Edited December 17, 2019 by Cinga 3
B-Man Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Democrats are going to try to “Kavanaugh” the Impeachment Trial with new accusations The most dangerous place on earth, Bob Dole wisely observed, is between Chuck Schumer and the TV cameras. Not surprisingly, while Mitch McConnell usually gets his way, Schumer gets the headlines and TV coverage. Schumer did that again today with his demand for a “fair” trial, meaning to Schumer that Democrats get to reopen the investigation of Trump during the trial, including calling witnesses who did not testify, and doing the job the House Democrats failed to do. A do-over. That’s not usually the way trials work — the pleading of claims and discovery takes place before the trial. House Democrats chose not to do that for key witnesses they wanted — including John Bolton and Mick Mulvaney — because forcing them to testify in the House would have meant court litigation. Democrats were on a timetable driven by the 2020 election that did not allow for a court to decide the clash of branches, so they went with what they had. Schumer and Senate Democrats know that what the House had is not enough to get 20 Republican Senators to vote against Trump — they may not even get one. So the trial takes on a different purpose — to seek evidence and to prolong impeachment investigations for the remainder of the election year based on “new evidence” discovered during the trial. Byron York astutely observes that Senate Democrats are taking the same approach they took in trying to block Brett Kavanaugh’s Supreme Court nomination: . 3
keepthefaith Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 They'll have to votes in the house to move it to the Senate. I doubt there will be many defectors as the pressure of party outweighs significantly the pressure of constituency from which they are very insulated IMO. However, I've been wrong on political outcomes several times. They can't turn back. That's a far worse scenario politically than the narrative that Republicans in the Senate made a sham of a serious matter and have created a constitutional crisis and are threatening our national security. That plus the fact that Trump was impeached will become their ammo in 2020. It helps them control the media narrative and will provide some cover over what Barr and Durham are doing. Pelosi will tell her baby chicks in swing districts that this enhances their re-election hopes and will keep the dems in the majority in the House. 1
row_33 Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, keepthefaith said: They'll have to votes in the house to move it to the Senate. I doubt there will be many defectors as the pressure of party outweighs significantly the pressure of constituency from which they are very insulated IMO. However, I've been wrong on political outcomes several times. They can't turn back. That's a far worse scenario politically than the narrative that Republicans in the Senate made a sham of a serious matter and have created a constitutional crisis and are threatening our national security. That plus the fact that Trump was impeached will become their ammo in 2020. It helps them control the media narrative and will provide some cover over what Barr and Durham are doing. Pelosi will tell her baby chicks in swing districts that this enhances their re-election hopes and will keep the dems in the majority in the House. the Senate began it's investigation for Watergate before the House voted on impeachment it's the amazing part and parcel of how Nixon was not impeached, the clear worst of the 4 to undergo the process, by a million miles...
Tiberius Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: the Senate began it's investigation for Watergate before the House voted on impeachment it's the amazing part and parcel of how Nixon was not impeached, the clear worst of the 4 to undergo the process, by a million miles... Trump is worse than Nixon, Dick didn't try to interfere in an election using foreign powers
Tiberius Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Andrew Johnson wasn't trying to steel an election
Westside Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Trump is worse than Nixon, Dick didn't try to interfere in an election using foreign powers Neither did Trump. Obama and Hillary on the other hand, are responsible for the steele dossier. Which they paid to have foriegn powers dig up dirt on a presidential candidate. 4
Tiberius Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, westside2 said: Neither did Trump. Obama and Hillary on the other hand, are responsible for the steele dossier. Which they paid to have foriegn powers dig up dirt on a presidential candidate. No, Trump even admitted it. Idiot 1
Foxx Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Albwan said: LOLOLOLOLOL....Turtle smirkin + trollin at :42 the only thing that would make this better would be if they had a split screen with Nancy's facial expressions. 1
Foxx Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Tiberius said: blah blah blah #orangemanbad blah blah blah i'm sorry but that is not how it works. it is up to either the Executive branch or the Legislative branch to submit the dispute to the Judiciary (not solely the Chief Justice). the Judicial can not insert itself of it's own volition. additionally, i really, really do not think the Dems would want a Constitutional Convention opened up. they should seriously think long and hard about that one.... Edited December 17, 2019 by Foxx 3
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