Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Foxx said: yep, Bondi is the first to lay the ground work to legitimize Trump's ask for investigations. And the 2nd time in less than 30 minutes. How many more times will it be played during prime time? We may be able to turn this into a drinking game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 22 minutes ago, Hedge said: I'm just tuning in now. Is this the first time the Biden tape of him getting the Ukraine prosecutor fired has been played? Ha, they just played it again. Also, they put up a Heinz kid email to the State Dept. from 2014. How the heck did they get their hands on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 47 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: You're asking a lot from an internet challenged geezer to read through some of my own thoughts to get to yours. Looks like a whole lot of hinky voodoo copy and paste business but here goes: 1. The House has it's rules and role. The Senate does as well. To the broader question of absolute immunity--I'm going to be the last honest mah-fahkurr on the internet. What the heck do I know? If President Trump was on the front lawn of the White House and stabbed a CNN reporter through the cranium, I"d think he would be removed. At the same time, let's not make this elaborate scheme something grander than it is. This isn't about a crime, it isn't about obstruction, this is about politics with a blunt hatchet. See if it were me, I'd think old Adam Schiff would be embarrassed to be caught lying as as spokesperson of the modern Dem party, but not only is he not embarrassed, the dem leadership makes him the Mac Daddy of Impeachment--he's the BuggEY'D-G of Impeachment. The House chose its path, defined it's role and moved forward as the enemy combatant to the sitting President and those who elected him. Why would the Senate not follow the same course of action? You ask too much. 2. The Russian narrative is dead, it actually died long before it knew it had expired, and it's embarrassing to continue to point to it. It was a wholesale victory by Team Trump, the issue should be buried and those who ran the grift on the American people exposed and jailed. There should be no further review of Trump in that regard, and the only reason to do so is purely for political gain. Folks who think as you do will buy whatever is sold in that regard, so there is that. As for OJ--(and seriously Bob---an OJ question here??), no, OJ should not be investigated by the House or Senate for murder, past or present. As for Ukraine--I already know what happened. So do you. I want it to end because in spite of the incredible legal/political gymnastics they ran with, the House Dems could not even carry their own party with the load of crap they backed up to our Nation's Capitol. This, in spite of unlimited time, money, resources and the ability to game the system as they saw fit. I want it to end as soon as reasonably possible, within the guidelines established for such things, using the power and strength of the majority party. 3. You know I like chatting with you, but the last part about cheating and Wikileaks is off the rails my friend. I see things differently, of course, but it has nothing to do with smearing Biden--Biden is knee deep in self-smearing (gross) based on his public commentary on the issue at hand. I'm not even sure that what Biden Inc did was illegal--at least the part about setting his crackhead son up for a sweetheart deal. I think he clearly strong-armed a foreign government for personal enrichment, heck I'd think even you agree with that, right? "Get rid of the guy who's looking into our affairs, or I cut off aid from the American taxpayers." Joe Biden ain't going to jail, and he'll drum up 10s of millions of votes, yet he's on tape sounding an awful lot like Paulie Walnuts of Sopranos. I think well-intentioned liberals think they somehow hold some moral high ground on these issues, and that's the part that makes me laugh. I know who Trump is as a human, I know the things that bother me about him, but I sit here today and say still---the guy is a national treasure and one day, books will be written about this crazy journey he took to the top in spite of the obstacles, entrenched politicos working against him 24x7, and with people filled with righteous indignation who claim their guy is the answer--be their guy a crazy old man who fondles everything he can get his hands on while propping up his drug-addicted-deceased-brother's-wife-banging son in the ^%$#ing Ukraine, or the crazy conman socialist and his criminal wife living the elitist life of a high ranking member of the politboro, or the self-aggrandizing Harvard prof who can't remember if she grew up oppressed in a house or a wigwam, or the obligatory gay mayor of a town who's sister city might well be Cheektowaga, NY. I say again. This is a political death match. If the republicans are going to cave and be bullied by the liberals, the fight is lost. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Do you, personally, find anything wrong/dirty/icky about Biden's son being on the board of Bursima, when Biden himself was put in charge of lobbying for the Ukraine's energy policy among our European allies? I think that is very sketchy but was Trump wanting that investigated for his own personal gain or the countries...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: 2 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It's just starting for Hunter... He'll be like this before the week is out... 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, Margarita said: I think that is very sketchy but was Trump wanting that investigated for his own personal gain or the countries...... (Still striving for a conversation, not a hostile debate, and appreciate your responses ) Honestly though, how can you differentiate between the two? If you think it was sketchy (and I agree), which does NOT mean criminal (we'd both agree there I suspect), it certainly warrants a closer look if you're concerned about corruption, no? Or, do you believe the simple act of running for president makes one immune from investigation into their past misdeeds? If what Biden was doing was corrupt, and the odds are HIGH that it was, then the country benefits from an investigation into that. Does Trump benefit too? Maybe. But he's still POTUS and has every legal right to investigate corruption in terms of foreign policy. The constitution is explicit in that. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, Nanker said: It's just starting for Hunter... He'll be like this before the week is out... I can't laugh hard enough at this!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Breaking jokes aside -- color me shocked, not shocked. ***************** 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtruelove Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Pam Bondi and the guy on right now speaking on the Biden topics have butchered their presentations. You would think those preparing for a historic defense would know their material inside and out. Again, content excellent but delivery not so much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, realtruelove said: Pam Bondi and the guy on right now speaking on the Biden topics have butchered their presentations. You would think those preparing for a historic defense would know their material inside and out. Again, content excellent but delivery not so much. To each their own, I haven't had much of a problem with their delivery personally -- but I've been trying to work while watch so I might have missed some flubs. ************************ Good thread to break down: 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, realtruelove said: Pam Bondi and the guy on right now speaking on the Biden topics have butchered their presentations. You would think those preparing for a historic defense would know their material inside and out. Again, content excellent but delivery not so much. There aren't too many elocutionists on either side. I like listening without the visuals. It helps quite a bit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, Margarita said: replies above in reddish color hope this post works You come down here with the attitude that you are knowledgeable about the subject but do nothing but espouse your "feelings". When challenged, you claim that anyone challenging you is a "Trumptard" or whatever and come off as a victim. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, snafu said: There aren't too many elocutionists on either side. I like listening without the visuals. It helps quite a bit. I feel like anyone who has watched long enough has that back-splash they're standing in front of burned into their brains to such an extent they see it when they close their eyes. **************** 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Obama-Medvedev comparison now. I wonder if they bring up Ted Kennedy's letter to the Russians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Gal Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, wnyguy said: Then let me ask you what the point in posting at all is? Would it be better to have posted and have no one respond or better to post and have people react to your post, be it in agreement or disagreement? Look at me! Look at me! LOOK AT ME! And people indulge these trolls. ?♀️ To each his/her own. I have often said how grateful I am for the dungeon. I have read so much, learned so much, and broadened my intellectual horizons due to PPP. It astounds me that this football sub forum, of all places, has such varied sources and discussions. I read a lot of political blogs and news commentary, and PPP really does a great job of coalescing timely, pertinent information. Too bad there are some people just here to drop troll-clutter. Edited January 27, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 "Urgency" mashup. I wonder if they will do an "undisputed" mashup. Maybe follow up with an "overwhelming" montage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 50 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Interesting strategy here, giving Bondi (who has been fabulous) the kill shot on Hunter. I wonder how much thought was given to letting a female lawyer make this case, rather than Sekulow or Cipillone to head off "progressive" attacks. First I've seen them do it. But I missed a chunk earlier this morning. Pam Bondi is a hot little MILF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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