london_bills Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) Mcdermott is operating differently to other coaches. It's clear he is giving players more chances after mistakes. Yeldon, Bojo, Hauschka etc I will give him the benefit of the doubt due to results. Edited December 4, 2019 by london_bills
Dopey Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 32 minutes ago, JM57 said: Most of his misses came with the Chargers, in his first few games in the league. I'm still okay with it. With the 49ers he only missed one kick, and that was after he nailed one from 47 to force OT. But, oh what a miss it was. 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 37 minutes ago, Kiva said: Haoushka is shot. Sign chase now. No more losing games (Browns) because our kicker is a head case. cut Houshka, sign Chase I am not against this completely but this kid missed a game winner also- it seems many kickers this year have the yips.
Kiva Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I am not against this completely but this kid missed a game winner also- it seems many kickers this year have the yips. Houshka has to be one of the worse kickers in the league. Make the change.
Warcodered Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, IgotBILLStopay said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/3150744/chase-mclaughlin 5/9 40-49 yards. I will pass and roll the dice with Haushka since he is not a clear upgrade. Hope the Pats sign him and he misses a few kicks for them. https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/11923/stephen-hauschka for comparison, Haushka is 7/8 at 40-49 yards in a down year Haushka is also at 1/5 for 50+ which I suppose ties McLaughlin whose 1/1 22 minutes ago, Kiva said: Houshka has to be one of the worse kickers in the league. Make the change. He's losing his consistency but he is not one of the worst kickers in the league we've seen a lot worse.
sullim4 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 39 minutes ago, london_bills said: Mcdermott is operating differently to other coaches. It's clear he is giving players more chances after mistakes. Yeldon, Bojo, Hauschka etc I will give him the benefit of the doubt due to results. Yes, that worked very well with Nathan Peterman. 1 1
JM57 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Haushka is also at 1/5 for 50+ which I suppose ties McLaughlin whose 1/1 He's losing his consistency but he is not one of the worst kickers in the league we've seen a lot worse. 27th and 28th in FG% the last two seasons, in a league where at least a few teams are churning through multiple kickers a season, so right at the bottom of the barrel for the "every week" guys. Priorto the cheap shot Jets game last year, he was 17/19. He finished the season at 22/28, or 5/9 down the stretch, and is now 15/21 this season. That's 20/30, or 66.7%, in his last 16 games. That is A LOT of missed kicks. Hausch-money is gone guys. I don't know if it's mental or the cheap shot messed him up physically but it's probably time to accept that he could be washed. Edited December 4, 2019 by JM57
Just Joshin' Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/3150744/chase-mclaughlin 5/9 40-49 yards. I will pass and roll the dice with Haushka since he is not a clear upgrade. Hope the Pats sign him and he misses a few kicks for them. https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/11923/stephen-hauschka for comparison, Haushka is 7/8 at 40-49 yards in a down year Please do not inject facts into the discussion.
Chicken Boo Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) When you can't even get a 53 yarder to the goal post, you're worthless as far as I'm concerned. I would replace Haush in a second. He is going to cost us dearly one of these times. Edited December 4, 2019 by Chicken Boo
brianthomas Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 I just don't understand why we gave Hausckha a 2 year extension when we had time to make that decision after the season was over. We gave him an $8 million extension & now we're committed to him, unless we eat some dead cap by letting him go. But i just scratch my head at that one, as does everyone else i've talked to about it. There simply wasnt a hurry to extend him & every reason to wait to see how this season turned out. Its not like Hauschka was just gonna turn into a hot commodity & be looking to leave. We had time to go over our options. Hopefully he turns it around in this final stretch. But if he doesn't i hope we can find an upgrade. Our place kicker is a pretty important position for us, given the close nature of a lot of our games.
london_bills Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, sullim4 said: Yes, that worked very well with Nathan Peterman. Not relevant to now. 9-3.
Dopey Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 Maybe there's a reason 2 teams dropped him. He is 5/9 from 40-49 and missed a game winning kick himself. From the "Star needs to go" to the "Shaq sucks" to the "Oliver is a bust" to the "Duke must start" etc., etc. on this board, this staff has proven to be right. If they find a better kicker, fine. Chase is not better, he's just a different name. Could be wrong, but I don't see this happening. 1
LABILLBACKER Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 Our kicking and punting game will definitely need upgrading next year.
StHustle Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 37 minutes ago, brianthomas said: I just don't understand why we gave Hausckha a 2 year extension when we had time to make that decision after the season was over. We gave him an $8 million extension & now we're committed to him, unless we eat some dead cap by letting him go. But i just scratch my head at that one, as does everyone else i've talked to about it. There simply wasnt a hurry to extend him & every reason to wait to see how this season turned out. Its not like Hauschka was just gonna turn into a hot commodity & be looking to leave. We had time to go over our options. Hopefully he turns it around in this final stretch. But if he doesn't i hope we can find an upgrade. Our place kicker is a pretty important position for us, given the close nature of a lot of our games. Im pretty sure they did that to boost his confidence and get him over the mental hurdle. It didn't work.
london_bills Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dopey said: Maybe there's a reason 2 teams dropped him. He is 5/9 from 40-49 and missed a game winning kick himself. From the "Star needs to go" to the "Shaq sucks" to the "Oliver is a bust" to the "Duke must start" etc., etc. on this board, this staff has proven to be right. If they find a better kicker, fine. Chase is not better, he's just a different name. Could be wrong, but I don't see this happening. I know. 9-3 1
IgotBILLStopay Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Warcodered said: Haushka is also at 1/5 for 50+ which I suppose ties McLaughlin whose 1/1 Comparing 50+ yard FG percent is not correct - it is subject to self selection bias. Hauschka has range much greater than 50 yards. McLaughlin's max range is 50 yards. Even the one he made was exactly 50 yards. The reason he is perfect 1/1 is that teams dont have him kick 50+ FGs whereas McD regularly has Hauschka have a go at 50+ (Hauschka made 13 straight 50+ last year). That is why 40-49 is the correct comparison. 1
GunnerBill Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 The Bills liked Chase in the offseason. I don't expect it to happen this week but while he is a FA I do think it adds a little sauce to the Haushka situation. If he keeps missing this is a move that would not shock me. 1
Saxum Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 4 hours ago, JM57 said: 27th and 28th in FG% the last two seasons, in a league where at least a few teams are churning through multiple kickers a season, so right at the bottom of the barrel for the "every week" guys. Priorto the cheap shot Jets game last year, he was 17/19. He finished the season at 22/28, or 5/9 down the stretch, and is now 15/21 this season. That's 20/30, or 66.7%, in his last 16 games. That is A LOT of missed kicks. Hausch-money is gone guys. I don't know if it's mental or the cheap shot messed him up physically but it's probably time to accept that he could be washed. He really should take that player to small claims court since it clearly was against rules for future earnings. Good luck to Chase. Kickers have a rough time in the league although the best ones play longer than most players in NFL.
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 Hauschka looks washed to me, I'd pull the trigger.
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