Dablitzkrieg Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 2:03 AM, Kiva said: Lame. Wegmans sucks. Expand This is stupid lol 2
Buffalo03 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 1:38 AM, LSHMEAB said: People always forget that he had his shot in the playoffs. He stumbled and fumbled the ball away in the closing seconds as Armstrong easily stripped him near the goal line. "Mr Clutch" that Flutie. That Miami team went on to lose the following week by 35 points. Tennessee was a MUCH tougher game and the Bills should have won. It's easy to say Flutie could have scored 20 points, but that's the same argument people would make for Tyrod prior to the Jax game had we known the final score. Let's say someone like Fitz played and had a bad Fitz performance where he handed the ball to the Jags several times and the Bills lost 17-10. People would say Tyrod ball would lead to at least 17. Flutie just wasn't that good, so it didn't matter all that much which QB played against Tennessee. Not only is Flutie the most overrated QB in Bills history, the "DECISION" is also the most overrated coaching(OWNER) move the franchise has ever made. Neither Flutie nor Johnson were any good. That number 1 defense Wade Phillips put together was the sole reason the team was in the playoffs. Expand So, that Miami game was Flutie's fault because he fumbled at the end? How about Eric Moulds's fumble on the first play of the game. It might not have come down to that at the last second if Moulds doesn't fumble. Seriously? I will never understand the Flutie hate
The Jokeman Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) The secret out he hadn't been juicing out with HGH all these years instead he's been eating these.... On 12/4/2019 at 7:18 PM, Buffalo03 said: So, that Miami game was Flutie's fault because he fumbled at the end? How about Eric Moulds's fumble on the first play of the game. It might not have come down to that at the last second if Moulds doesn't fumble. Seriously? I will never understand the Flutie hate Expand Flutie also had a critical interception before the half in that game. Yes, Doug played well but when he left the field we were losing in part cause of his fumble. For all his supporters that ignore this fact then they should also ignore all the times "he" won. The hate on Flutie is in 1999 he was a glorified game manager at toward the end of the season the offense wasn't producing much, it looked like RJ sparked the offense with a great performance against Indy. Truth be told if Tennessee doesn't score on the Music City Miracle RJ gets the Flutie magic treatment and the fan in house fighting stops and we likely cut Flutie sooner. and eventually RJ sooner than later and maybe alter team history. Edited December 4, 2019 by The Jokeman 1 1
Steptide Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 12:24 AM, tomur67 said: I'd rather have a box of Josh Allen flakes! Expand I was thinking the same thing. How about some Allen flakes or Allen toast crunch
Buffalo03 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 8:16 PM, The Jokeman said: The secret out he hadn't been juicing out with HGH all these years instead he's been eating these.... Flutie also had a critical interception before the half in that game. Yes, Doug played well but when he left the field we were losing in part cause of his fumble. For all his supporters that ignore this fact then they should also ignore all the times "he" won. Expand He's not freaking perfect. We also got screwed out of an Andre Reed TD in that game. Without Flutie we aren't even playing in that game. We started 0-3 and he turned the season around for us. We made the playoffs that year because of him. Yeah, he fumbled the last play of the game. That could have happened to Peyton Manning. Flutie was a good QB for us. He was a team guy, not a me guy. One other guy in this post talked about how he divided the locker room, how? He got screwed over in the Titans playoff game and I honestly think if he plays that game that we go to the Super Bowl with the number 1 defense and beat the Rams 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) On 12/4/2019 at 8:25 PM, Steptide said: I was thinking the same thing. How about some Allen flakes or Allen toast crunch Expand Yes! This! Live in the present looking forward instead of clinging to the marginally successful turds of the past!!! But Allen strikes me as more of a biscuits and gravy that some cheap knock of cereal. At least oatmeal or something Edited December 4, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 2:21 AM, BuffaloBills1998 said: Again sir Flutie did not suck. He won comeback of the player year award his first year in Buffalo. And we had more than a great defense we still had Andre Reed and a decent running game with Thurman and Smith Expand So did Jim McMahon.... it’s not a benchmark for excellence. its sort of a woah you suck a little less than we all thought you did award.
The Jokeman Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 8:27 PM, Buffalo03 said: He's not freaking perfect. We also got screwed out of an Andre Reed TD in that game. Without Flutie we aren't even playing in that game. We started 0-3 and he turned the season around for us. We made the playoffs that year because of him. Yeah, he fumbled the last play of the game. That could have happened to Peyton Manning. Flutie was a good QB for us. He was a team guy, not a me guy. One other guy in this post talked about how he divided the locker room, how? He got screwed over in the Titans playoff game and I honestly think if he plays that game that we go to the Super Bowl with the number 1 defense and beat the Rams Expand Did Flutie turn the season around or land in a fortunate position? RJ had an awesome game against the Rams in Week 3 but we lost in the last few seconds in part because Flutie couldn't kill the clock. RJ then followed that up with a win in Week 4 with a win against the 49ers. I find it funny all the Flutie lovers always forget these things. 1
Buffalo03 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 8:39 PM, The Jokeman said: Did Flutie turn the season around or land in a fortunate position? RJ had an awesome game against the Rams in Week 3 but we lost in the last few seconds in part because Flutie couldn't kill the clock. RJ then followed that up with a win in Week 4 with a win against the 49ers. I find it funny all the Flutie lovers always forget these things. Expand Rob Johnson sucked big time. That was clearly evident. You're pointing out a couple of decent games he had. It's amazing to me how all the Flutie haters seem to make Rob Johnson sound like he was a good QB. He was awful.
The Jokeman Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 8:27 PM, Buffalo03 said: He's not freaking perfect. We also got screwed out of an Andre Reed TD in that game. Without Flutie we aren't even playing in that game. We started 0-3 and he turned the season around for us. We made the playoffs that year because of him. Yeah, he fumbled the last play of the game. That could have happened to Peyton Manning. Flutie was a good QB for us. He was a team guy, not a me guy. One other guy in this post talked about how he divided the locker room, how? He got screwed over in the Titans playoff game and I honestly think if he plays that game that we go to the Super Bowl with the number 1 defense and beat the Rams Expand Flutie averaged like 16 points a game the last 5 weeks or so, we might beat Tennessee but no way we beat the Rams with that kind of production. On 12/4/2019 at 8:42 PM, Buffalo03 said: Rob Johnson sucked big time. That was clearly evident. You're pointing out a couple of decent games he had. It's amazing to me how all the Flutie haters seem to make Rob Johnson sound like he was a good QB. He was awful. Expand RJ sucked at staying healthy. As a result he could never be a full time starter. Either way neither him or Flutie were good enough to get us past the first game of the playoffs but at least RJ left the field with us ahead of the Titans which you can't say about Flutie in his 0-2 NFL playoffs record (he lost with the 1986 Bears too with one of the leagues best defenses that season). 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 8:42 PM, Buffalo03 said: Rob Johnson sucked big time. That was clearly evident. You're pointing out a couple of decent games he had. It's amazing to me how all the Flutie haters seem to make Rob Johnson sound like he was a good QB. He was awful. Expand They were both aweful. Picking the starter was Sophie’s choice 1
The Jokeman Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 8:48 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: They were both aweful. Picking the starter was Sophie’s choice Expand Great comment.
Buffalo03 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 8:43 PM, The Jokeman said: Flutie averaged like 16 points a game the last 5 weeks or so, we might beat Tennessee but no way we beat the Rams with that kind of production. RJ sucked at staying healthy. As a result he could never be a full time starter. Either way neither him or Flutie were good enough to get us past the first game of the playoffs but at least RJ left the field with us ahead of the Titans which you can't say about Flutie in his 0-2 NFL playoffs record (he lost with the 1986 Bears too with one of the leagues best defenses that season). Expand Rob Johnson couldn't be a full time starter because he sucked. He was outplayed by Flutie all 3 years they were both here together. And your post about how we couldn't beat the Rams because of 16 points. If you remember correctly the Rams vs Titans Super Bowl was 16-16 in the 4th quarter before Warner hit Isaac Bruce for the ling TD. The Rams only scored 23 points. We had the number 1 defense in the league. It was better than the Titans. If they could hold them to 16 until the last quarter and 23 points total, I'm not sure why we couldn't do the same On 12/4/2019 at 8:48 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: They were both aweful. Picking the starter was Sophie’s choice Expand If you want to say Flutie was mediocre which I would still say is slightly wrong, then yes, I will agree with you. No person in their right mind would ever say that Flutie was awful. He was the last QB to take us to the playoffs for nearly 20 years
The Jokeman Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) On 12/4/2019 at 8:51 PM, Buffalo03 said: Rob Johnson couldn't be a full time starter because he sucked. He was outplayed by Flutie all 3 years they were both here together. And your post about how we couldn't beat the Rams because of 16 points. If you remember correctly the Rams vs Titans Super Bowl was 16-16 in the 4th quarter before Warner hit Isaac Bruce for the ling TD. The Rams only scored 23 points. We had the number 1 defense in the league. It was better than the Titans. If they could hold them to 16 until the last quarter and 23 points total, I'm not sure why we couldn't do the same If you want to say Flutie was mediocre which I would still say is slightly wrong, then yes, I will agree with you. No person in their right mind would ever say that Flutie was awful. He was the last QB to take us to the playoffs for nearly 20 years Expand Maybe because the Rams had the 4th best defense with regard to points against and Flutie was a turnover machine whereas McNair didn't make any in that Super Bowl and our running game didn't have anything close to Eddie George. I don't think we would have won it if somehow RJ were to play in this hypothetical game either for what it's worth. Edited December 4, 2019 by The Jokeman
Buffalo03 Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 8:58 PM, The Jokeman said: Maybe because the Rams had the 4th best defense with regard to points against and Flutie was a turnover machine whereas McNair didn't make any in that Super Bowl and our running game didn't have anything close to Eddie George. I don't think we would have won it if somehow RJ were to play in this hypothetical game either for what it's worth. Expand Flutie was a turnover machine? He had a couple games where he threw multiple picks but you make it sound like he was turning the ball over all over the field. He threw 16 INTs. Tons of QBs today throw that like it's nothing. I don't know how you could have watched what he did in 98 and even the 5 games he started in 2000 where he went 4-1 as a starter and say that he wasn't very good. He was the last QB to take us to the playoffs back to back years before no other QB could do it for nearly 20 years. He didn't have a great season in 99 but without him, we don't get to the playoffs that year
Poleshifter Posted December 4, 2019 Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/3/2019 at 11:47 PM, bmur66 said: I wonder what the 20 year old Flutie Flakes I have look like. Really want to open the box. Mmmm Expand Just get some really old milk to pour over the flakes. Ewwww...
The Jokeman Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 9:09 PM, Buffalo03 said: Flutie was a turnover machine? He had a couple games where he threw multiple picks but you make it sound like he was turning the ball over all over the field. He threw 16 INTs. Tons of QBs today throw that like it's nothing. I don't know how you could have watched what he did in 98 and even the 5 games he started in 2000 where he went 4-1 as a starter and say that he wasn't very good. He was the last QB to take us to the playoffs back to back years before no other QB could do it for nearly 20 years. He didn't have a great season in 99 but without him, we don't get to the playoffs that year Expand A couple? I counted six. He wasn't the same player in 1999 as he was 1998. He a grand total of 20 TDs in 1999. It's ironic but you know what 1999 also was? The last season of Bruce, Andre and Thurman but yeah I give credit to an average QB leading us to the playoffs not three HOFers and top defense of the year. Sorry I can't see what you're seeing.
RiotAct Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 10:33 PM, Poleshifter said: Just get some really old milk to pour over the flakes. Ewwww... Expand Pinto Ron could help you out with that...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 8:27 PM, Buffalo03 said: He's not freaking perfect. We also got screwed out of an Andre Reed TD in that game. Without Flutie we aren't even playing in that game. We started 0-3 and he turned the season around for us. We made the playoffs that year because of him. Yeah, he fumbled the last play of the game. That could have happened to Peyton Manning. Flutie was a good QB for us. He was a team guy, not a me guy. One other guy in this post talked about how he divided the locker room, how? He got screwed over in the Titans playoff game and I honestly think if he plays that game that we go to the Super Bowl with the number 1 defense and beat the Rams Expand Quarterbacked the team to 5 turnovers in a playoff game against our biggest rival. It happened. 2 1
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