YoloinOhio Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I think the Bills will need to emphasize takeaways in this game and ball control to keep their offense off the field 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) Bovada says Bills +6, ML +195 and O/U 43.5 Edited December 2, 2019 by Mike in Horseheads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mike in Horseheads Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, syhuang said: Ok I'm old and don't know all the new fancy stats, WTF is DVOA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 We will need great safety play. We need to play gap sound and have Poyer/ Hyde essentially "shadowing" Lamar and playing down in the box, disguising coverages. I think having a safety in the box as an extra LB essentially while playing hook/hole would be huge. Now this is also where we benefit from the athleticism of Milano and Edumunds. I'm interested to see what McD / Frazier draw up for this. I think we can absolutely get away with Cover 1 given how athletic we are. The Chargers did this last year with Derwin James and Lamar couldn't break free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Ok I'm old and don't know all the new fancy stats, WTF is DVOA Defense-adjusted-value-over-who-the-heck-cares-he's-obviously-playing-well 2 minutes ago, warrior9 said: We will need great safety play. We need to play gap sound and have Poyer/ Hyde essentially "shadowing" Lamar and playing down in the box, disguising coverages. I think having a safety in the box as an extra LB essentially while playing hook/hole would be huge. Now this is also where we benefit from the athleticism of Milano and Edumunds. I'm interested to see what McD / Frazier draw up for this. I think we can absolutely get away with Cover 1 given how athletic we are. The Chargers did this last year with Derwin James and Lamar couldn't break free. Yep. Exactly what I said up thread. Good stuff 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Ok I'm old and don't know all the new fancy stats, WTF is DVOA https://www.footballoutsiders.com/info/methods THE ULTRA-SHORT VERSION: DVOA measures a team's efficiency by comparing success on every single play to a league average based on situation and opponent. THE SHORT VERSION: DVOA is a method of evaluating teams, units, or players. It takes every single play during the NFL season and compares each one to a league-average baseline based on situation. DVOA measures not just yardage, but yardage towards a first down: Five yards on third-and-4 are worth more than five yards on first-and-10 and much more than five yards on third-and-12. Red zone plays are worth more than other plays. Performance is also adjusted for the quality of the opponent. DVOA is a percentage, so a team with a DVOA of 10.0% is 10 percent better than the average team, and a quarterback with a DVOA of -20.0% is 20 percent worse than the average quarterback. Because DVOA measures scoring, defenses are better when they are negative. For more detail, read below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Ok I'm old and don't know all the new fancy stats, WTF is DVOA It's another magical made up analytics stat. Has literally noting to do with anything. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: It's another magical made up analytics stat. Has literally noting to do with anything. Same way I feel like about baseball and "WAR". I don't give a shitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: Just thought I’d toss this in here. J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets!? Come on, Chandler...you're better than this. It's... J-E-S-T...JEST, JEST, JEST!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say When... Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I want the Ravens to wear their light colored jerseys. anyone else notice it appeared with the weather and their all black uni's Lamar was able to disguise the exchange more? May be insignificant in the grand scheme but it appeared to me to help in a number of plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I’m hoping for a blizzard. Anyone know the long-range forecast? (Of course, I’ll be watching from Florida, so...) 44° Considerable cloudiness with occasional rain showers. Low 43F. Winds SSW at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 40%. Edited December 2, 2019 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: Come on, Chandler...you're better than this. It's... J-E-S-T...JEST, JEST, JEST!!! So fresh! ? I've never heard them called that before..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Jerry Jabber said: After getting blown out 47-3 in the season opener last year, I hope the Bills are looking for some retribution on Sunday. We are going to need more field goals. Edited December 2, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) We've scored 37, 20 and 26 since the Cleveland game. The 20 and 26 are results of us basically running out the clock for an extended period of time. Our Offense is becoming, dare I say... good? Josh Allen has taken some huge steps forward as the season has gone on. It looks like it's started to click for him. Our OL is legitimately a top half of the league unit and we have playmakers in Singletary, Knox, Brown, Beasley, Foster and McKenzie. That's a talented QB, with a good OL and a lot of speedy playmakers finding their identity post-Cleveland in the up-tempo run & shoot/K-Gun offense. I have to think this highly rated defense is pretty excited for the opportunity to do what New England and San Fran's Defense could not. (Granted, SF held them to 20, but their offense didn't come through) It won't be easy, but i'm really liking what I see from this team, on both sides of the ball. Edited December 2, 2019 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 55 minutes ago, syhuang said: So basically he was good after he stopped turning the ball over wow what a stat lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 4 hours ago, dubs said: This could be totally stupid because I’m not an NFL defensive coordinator, but, here goes... Id clog the line and keep everyone in their lanes. I’m talking 4 or 5 linemen in the gaps, 2 or 3 LBs playing off the line and crashing, a safety in the middle and two DBs. The second it’s apparent it’s not a run, drop the LBs, a lineman, and clog up the middle passing lanes. Make Jackson stay and throw to the sidelines or in really tight windows. That's a pretty good stab at how the defense plays the Ravens O to me. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo ill Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Tbh, I always read DVOA as being DVDA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Quick blind player comparison: Player A - 12 games with 32 receptions for 367 and 2 TDs (1st Rd Pick) Player B - 12 games with 25 receptions for 307 and 2 TDs (3rd Rd Pick) Player A - TJ Hockenson Player B - Rambo Knox Happened to stumble on this when I saw Hockenson is going to IR. Found it interesting considering how popular a pick Hockenson was in a lot of mock drafts for our selection. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The Ravens went out in the off-season and added players, then revised their offensive scheme so as to avoid last season. Key offensive skill player additions: -Mark Ingram at RB. 30 years old, 5 ypa, and 70 ypg -Nick Boyle (R) at TE -Marquise Brown (R) at WR -a much more pass-capable Lamar Jackson What the Ravens looked like against the 9ers with 100+ yards passing, 180 yds rushing, and 20 points, is about as close to shut down as one's gonna get The Bills went out in the off season and added players, then revised their offensive scheme so as to avoid last season. Key offensive skill player additions: -Devin Singletary (R) and Frank Gore at RB. -Dawson Knox (R) at TE -John Brown and Cole Beasley at WR -a much more pass-capable Josh Allen The Ravens went from playoff team to contender. The Bills went from inconsistent underdog to contender. We'll play them tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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