zow2 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Philly was one loss to the Bills away from their season falling to pieces and more in-fighting, Cleveland was one loss to the Bills away from having their season basically end and their coach/Baker getting roasted. Both teams came together and beat Buffalo. Can McDermott coach these guys up to play with the same type of intensity we will see out of Dallas? The Dallas coaches and team are getting openly criticized by their owner and the fans/media are creating such a pressure environment for this game. Meanwhile by comparison, the Bills are floating in on a cloud. 2 2
SoCal Deek Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 You’re right on the basic premise but that pretty much goes away the minute someone punches you in the mouth. Let’s hope the Bills punch first, and often. 5
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, zow2 said: Philly was one loss to the Bills away from their season falling to pieces and more in-fighting, Cleveland was one loss to the Bills away from having their season basically end and their coach/Baker getting roasted. Both teams came together and beat Buffalo. Can McDermott coach these guys up to play with the same type of intensity we will see out of Dallas? The Dallas coaches and team are getting openly criticized by their owner and the fans/media are creating such a pressure environment for this game. Meanwhile by comparison, the Bills are floating in on a cloud. That's why they play the games I sort of see it differently. Against Philly, we had a head-scratching game plan to come out pass heavy and win the game on Allen's arm in crappy weather. It didn't work. The following week and last week in similar situations, we pounded the rock and it worked. Against the Browns, we came out with a similar head-scratching "let's put Singletary in the Barn and hang it on Allen's arm" formula and again, it didn't work. After that, the Bills offense seems to have had a "come to Jesus" meeting where we regrouped and simplified. Now we've put 2 games of that on tape. It really is going to come down to execution. We're a young team and we make mistakes at bad moments sometimes. If we lock in and execute, we can do this. Pressure is a two edged sword. It doesn't always amp you up, sometimes it cuts you. The Bills do seem kind of laid-back and smiley in their pressers, but hopefully the coaches chew their asses before the game and get them fired up. Being so dis-favored against a team with more losses ought to help. 4 3
PromoTheRobot Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, zow2 said: Philly was one loss to the Bills away from their season falling to pieces and more in-fighting, Cleveland was one loss to the Bills away from having their season basically end and their coach/Baker getting roasted. Both teams came together and beat Buffalo. Can McDermott coach these guys up to play with the same type of intensity we will see out of Dallas? The Dallas coaches and team are getting openly criticized by their owner and the fans/media are creating such a pressure environment for this game. Meanwhile by comparison, the Bills are floating in on a cloud. So Denver was under no pressure to save their season? 3 3
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) Keep repeating to yourselves... ‘Daboll in the booth! Daboll in the booth!’ EDIT: It can be said quietly, as a mantra. It can be chanted joyfully as a cheer. It can be angrily shouted as you storm the bastions at OBD. Edited November 27, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Instruction sheet. ? 4 3
Happy Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Keep repeating to yourselves... ‘Daboll in the booth! Daboll in the booth!’ Seems to have made quite the difference. Keep him upstairs.
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 well, 3rd times a charm, so there is that. 1
Virgil Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 38 minutes ago, zow2 said: Philly was one loss to the Bills away from their season falling to pieces and more in-fighting, Cleveland was one loss to the Bills away from having their season basically end and their coach/Baker getting roasted. Both teams came together and beat Buffalo. Can McDermott coach these guys up to play with the same type of intensity we will see out of Dallas? The Dallas coaches and team are getting openly criticized by their owner and the fans/media are creating such a pressure environment for this game. Meanwhile by comparison, the Bills are floating in on a cloud. also 0-2 on nationally televised games. Eagles and Browns were the North-East main feed and then some. In the future, so will the Steelers, Pats, and Ravens game 1
BarleyNY Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: So Denver was under no pressure to save their season? 3-7 and no QB. Denver and everyone else knew it was over already. The OP raises a good point. The bar is a little higher on Thursday. Time to see what the Bills are made of. A win against this Cowboys team in Dallas in prime time would be their most impressive of the season. 2
PromoTheRobot Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BarleyNY said: 3-7 and no QB. Denver and everyone else knew it was over already. The OP raises a good point. The bar is a little higher on Thursday. Time to see what the Bills are made of. A win against this Cowboys team in Dallas in prime time would be their most impressive of the season. I'm just saying the premise of this thread smacks of reverse engineering. Edited November 27, 2019 by PromoTheRobot
SCBills Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Virgil said: also 0-2 on nationally televised games. Eagles and Browns were the North-East main feed and then some. In the future, so will the Steelers, Pats, and Ravens game Not that fan perception matters much in the grand scheme of things, but I would love to show America that we’re for real on Thursday. If you read some Cowboys commentary from their fans, a lot of them watched our one (somewhat) recent game that was shown to more than just the city of Buffalo and whatever city we’re playing.. Philadelphia. Having that game be their basis, along with the narrative that we haven’t beaten anybody good makes it easy to see why they scoff at the notion our offense can do much of anything and our defense, that decided to let Philly run and screen us to death, is anything close to elite. Edited November 27, 2019 by SCBills 1 1
PatsFanNH Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 40 minutes ago, zow2 said: Philly was one loss to the Bills away from their season falling to pieces and more in-fighting, Cleveland was one loss to the Bills away from having their season basically end and their coach/Baker getting roasted. Both teams came together and beat Buffalo. Can McDermott coach these guys up to play with the same type of intensity we will see out of Dallas? The Dallas coaches and team are getting openly criticized by their owner and the fans/media are creating such a pressure environment for this game. Meanwhile by comparison, the Bills are floating in on a cloud. Cleveland is a much better team than their record shows, their problem terrible terrible coaching! But they have turned it around. (Oh they have also beaten the Ravens and in a blowout type fashion! ) Philly is a good team when healthy, the last few weeks they been playing with 2nd and 3rd stringers a lot. Also I’m not a huge fan of their HC.. but he isn’t terrible. Dallas, has more talent than both those teams on D and have some amazing talent on O.. (with one of the. Eat O lines in football) With their talent level they should be 10-1 or at worse 8-3.. why are they 6-5.. I dare say their HC! Going for a FG when you need a TD to win? Knowing your O struggled all day to move the ball.. ya he is toast after this year. so all 3 teams have amazing talent and are more than capable of winning purely on that. Dallas by every right should beat down the Bills based on talent alone! Will they? NOPE.. why? Because Garrett will do something stupid like throw the ball when Elliot is getting huge gains on the ground or run the ball when Dak is carving up the secondary.. the Bills huge advantage is better HC, and hopefully a better game plan. (Run Singletary a lot, Michel averaged 4.5 a carry in that miserable weather Sunday.. ) 1
BillsFanNC Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 The Bills are 8-3 against teams who also play in the NFL. I get the hand wringing to a certain extent...but c'mon now. 2
Kirby Jackson Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 48 minutes ago, zow2 said: Philly was one loss to the Bills away from their season falling to pieces and more in-fighting, Cleveland was one loss to the Bills away from having their season basically end and their coach/Baker getting roasted. Both teams came together and beat Buffalo. Can McDermott coach these guys up to play with the same type of intensity we will see out of Dallas? The Dallas coaches and team are getting openly criticized by their owner and the fans/media are creating such a pressure environment for this game. Meanwhile by comparison, the Bills are floating in on a cloud. I’ve been talking about this all week. For as easy as the Bills schedule has been they have played a few pretty good teams in absolute, must-win, games. That definitely makes it tougher. 1
billsherd Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 No doubt players will want to play hard for the coach after the criticism by Jerry. Also if they lose this one there could be a change at head coach.
FeelingOnYouboty Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Yeah both of those teams were more desperate than us and it showed. Hoping we match the energy tomorrow. 1
Patrick Duffy Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) If the Bills continue to run plays like they have the last 2 games they will have a good chance at winning the game. IMO the lack of use of Singletary and the running game overall in those 2 losses made a difference (think he was also injured for one of them). The play calling has seemingly gotten better and also the execution has been better. It's as if this offense needed some time to click with all the new players. In any event, as long as that continues with the execution and better play calling, these losses to the "desperate" teams should come to a halt. Edited November 27, 2019 by Patrick_Duffy 1
SCBills Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Cleveland is a much better team than their record shows, their problem terrible terrible coaching! But they have turned it around. (Oh they have also beaten the Ravens and in a blowout type fashion! ) Philly is a good team when healthy, the last few weeks they been playing with 2nd and 3rd stringers a lot. Also I’m not a huge fan of their HC.. but he isn’t terrible. Dallas, has more talent than both those teams on D and have some amazing talent on O.. (with one of the. Eat O lines in football) With their talent level they should be 10-1 or at worse 8-3.. why are they 6-5.. I dare say their HC! Going for a FG when you need a TD to win? Knowing your O struggled all day to move the ball.. ya he is toast after this year. so all 3 teams have amazing talent and are more than capable of winning purely on that. Dallas by every right should beat down the Bills based on talent alone! Will they? NOPE.. why? Because Garrett will do something stupid like throw the ball when Elliot is getting huge gains on the ground or run the ball when Dak is carving up the secondary.. the Bills huge advantage is better HC, and hopefully a better game plan. (Run Singletary a lot, Michel averaged 4.5 a carry in that miserable weather Sunday.. ) I think our talent is actually underrated. If we were a national game team, going by recent play, lots of people would know the names of Jordan Phillips, Ed Oliver, Shaq Lawson, Tremaine Edmunds, Matt Milano, Tre White, Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer. Many would also know how well Josh Allen has been playing, plus the strong rookie season for Devin Singletary, as well as the vet WR’s: John Brown and Cole Beasley. We also have a strong OL, which doesn’t get much recognition, but is a key to our improved offense, allowing Daboll/Allen to execute. I’m not saying we’re one of the most talented teams in the league. On Offense, a lot still rides on Allen and Daboll, but we’re not far away. I get your point though... Healthy Cleveland and healthy Philly have the ability to just out-talent other teams, but have had coaching or injuries hold them back. Edited November 27, 2019 by SCBills
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