Spitballing a Tre White contract extension

[YoloinOhio]

7 minutes ago, frogger said:

I agree with everyone’s take, he should be a Bill for the foreseeable future.

 

however...these are the people (or at the very a part) who let josh Norman leave, hindsight says it was a good decision, but at the time it seemed like he was the best CB.

 

how much do they value CB?  They have addressed it with mid round picks, other team’s castaways and an udfa, outside of White.

 

But, he is special and we need to, maybe not this offseason though.  Sign Phillips, ext Poyer and get more talent in FA.

 

 

I don’t know think the situations are similar. First, we don’t know how much either McD or Beane had to do with the decisions around Norman  as neither were in decision making roles. Secondly, Norman was a 6th rd pick from a small school who emerged as a good player, but was more of a late bloomer. And they didn’t just decide to let him walk, they tagged him and then he had a fit because he’s a head case and they pulled the tag eventually, and he was never the same player. The players and and the situations are pretty different. 

[H2o]

16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I don’t know think the situations are similar. First, we don’t know how much either McD or Beane had to do with the decisions around Norman  as neither were in decision making roles. Secondly, Norman was a 6th rd pick from a small school who emerged as a good player, but was more of a late bloomer. And they didn’t just decide to let him walk, they tagged him and then he had a fit because he’s a head case and they pulled the tag eventually, and he was never the same player. The players and and the situations are pretty different. 

Plus, Josh Norman is quite an odd character in general to say the least. He and Tre's attitudes are not similar in any way either. 

[Sherlock Holmes]

10 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

64 years

$324,645,765,000

That's the kind of contract I would offer McCaffrey and Kuechly

[ghostwriter]

He’ll be the highest paid corner and I think it’d be wise to pay him a year early, he’s worth it. Might as well sign Shaq and Jordan Phillips as well. Same goes for Feliciano and Spain.

[BarleyNY]

9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

It’s kind of what the Eagles did with Wentz

Yup. There have been a few teams trying to get their most expensive players under extensions before the new CBA hits and the cap takes a big jump up.  Both the CBA and White’s rookie deal expire after the 2020 season.  White’s option year is 2021.  Normally I would think that a long term deal would get done after 2020, but there’s a chance that an extension gets done early due to that situation.  White would get a very large chunk of cash sooner than usual and the Bills would save a few bucks overall.  It’d be a good deal for both sides and could happen as early March 2020 when White’s third season is officially complete, though a deal could be agreed to prior to that. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Saw this started thinking... 16/yr?

 

 

 

Pay him decent money .....  and use a Cheatriots capology tool  - Funnel $ from the Sabres to his Hockey exploits to offset the delta of top $ 

[Canadian Bills Fan]

Usually im thrilled about huge contracts for DB's but in this case, pay the man whatever he wants. He has earned it

[MAJBobby]

If Bills wait until after the Ramsey Extension they are going to pay.

 

I am expecting if they can get it done before the Ramsey Deal it likely will be in the 

 

14-15M range if they do it this offseason.  If they wait until after Ramsey or longer in his contract is likely will be closer to 18M-20M AVV.

 

Now the question is with 3 more years of contract: Next Year, 5th year Option, Franchise Tag 

 

will bill approach?  I am thinking they wait until after next year (picking up 5th year option this offseason)

[Freddie's Dead]

SPOTRAC lists his market value at 14.1M.  If I open the bidding now, I start at 5-year 65M, with 35M guaranteed, probably have to pay 75M with 40M guaranteed.  In another year, if Tre is still healthy, you'll have to start at 5-year 75M, with 40M guaranteed, and end up at 85M with 45M guaranteed.  The Bills should lock him up ASAP, it will save them money.  Also, forgot about the CBA.  Get the deal done now before the new CBA kicks in.

Edited November 25, 2019 by Freddie's Dead

[thenorthremembers]

He will get a lower 5th year option because he wasnt a top ten pick.  But with the cap going up to an expected 212 Million in 2021, he should get 17 Million a year based on the adjusted cap.

 

4/68 Million is what I'd expect.

[thebandit27]

I will guess 5 years and $80M with $50 gtd.

 

SB of $30M

First-year gtd salary of $5M

2nd year gtd salary of $10M

Gtd roster bonus of $5M in year 3

 

I bet it gets done post 2020 season.

[NewEra]

15 hours ago, wvbillsfan said:

Whatever the highest paid corner contract is when he gets to his contract year he’s gonna break it. 

This.  He and Lattimore will be battling for that highest paid corner spot.  I bet Tre gets it, just like Winfield, Clements and Gilmore before him

[Kelly the Dog]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

This.  He and Lattimore will be battling for that highest paid corner spot.  I bet Tre gets it, just like Winfield, Clements and Gilmore before him

As in "gets it but not from the Bills?"

 

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said:

As in "gets it but not from the Bills?"

 

Sure hope not.  I believe we’ll pay that man.  If anyone ever deserved it, it’s Tre.  Special player. Special person

[Kelly the Dog]

Just now, NewEra said:

Sure hope not.  I believe we’ll pay that man.  If anyone ever deserved it, it’s Tre.  Special player. Special person

Yep. I don't think there is any way they let him go. He also doesn't appear to be the greedy sort, and seems to love it in Buffalo. They will sign him and take care of him very well. He's every bit a McDermott guy, and even more so as a DB.

[warrior9]

Pay him .... literally whatever he wants.

[SoTier]

16 hours ago, ganesh said:

White won't be paid next year. They will simply pick up his 5th year option.  They first have to pay Poyer, Phillips and Dawkins at first level and Lawson at 2nd level.  

 

Why would they pay Dawkins "at first level"?  He's not that good.

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

Give him more than Mahomes 

[NoSaint]

14 hours ago, Estro said:

Right now the top of the CB market is $15.05M per year.......so that's where negotiations will begin.  If you get him under contract soon you're looking at 15.5ish M per......if you wait another year, it'll probably be in the $16-17 M per range as more contracts get done.

but you benefit from a year in his prime at $1.8m in cash paid. So it’s all a trade off. 

 

its not like the bills and his agent aren’t looking at his overall career worth based on when it slots up though. 

19 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

I will guess 5 years and $80M with $50 gtd.

 

SB of $30M

First-year gtd salary of $5M

2nd year gtd salary of $10M

Gtd roster bonus of $5M in year 3

 

I bet it gets done post 2020 season.

tagged on the end of this deal, or replacing his final year?

[SoTier]

 

16 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

 

they likely value Tre much more than any of those guys. Giving him a well earned extension and bypassing the 5th year option is likely in thest interest for everyone. 

 

I'll believe that the Bills value Tre White enough to pay him the going rate for a top DB when they actually pay him.  They've never paid one of the great/good DBs they've developed market value in two decades, most notably when they let Antoine Winfield walk away about fifteen years ago and most recently when they let All Pro Stephon Gilmore walk.   What they do about White will tell us whether the Beane/McDermott regime is truly different from their predecessors or if it's the same old/same old.