DCOrange Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28121690/all-nfl-running-backs-get-paid-2020-why-recent-deals-look-disasters As always, a good read from Barnwell on a topic that definitely has not at all been beaten to death: the value of RBs. TLDR: Melvin Gordon: franchise tag, especially if the Chargers let Rivers walk. Derrick Henry: re-signed due to Titans valuing him more than other teams would. Kenyan Drake: likely to hit free agency and sign as the lesser role in a timeshare Jordan Howard: likely to hit free agency and sign a very small deal (he suggests 1 year $2 million) Christian McCaffrey: long-term extension, maybe highest paid RB in the league Leonard Fournette: Jags pick up his 5th year option, though Barnwell thinks they should be very hesitant about it Dalvin Cook: likely to be re-signed, though Barnwell thinks they should let him walk Alvin Kamara: long-term extension around 4 years $60 million Marlon Mack: long-term extension around 4 years $30 million Aaron Jones: Potential for another Gordon/LeVeon type of situation James Connor: should let him play out his contract and re-evaluate Chris Carson: Let him play out his contract Joe Mixon: Let him play out his contract before likely re-signing him Tarik Cohen: -shrugs- Kareem Hunt, Austin Ekeler, and Matt Breida: likely re-signed to short-term deals Devonta Freeman, Dion Lewis, and Jerick McKinnon: likely cap casualties in the offseason 1 1
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 Interesting. Drake, Cohen, Ekeler Freeman and Lewis would all make a nice compliment to Singletary, especially at the right price.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Singletary will see the most touches next year. Look for Beane to draft a guy in rounds 4-6 with one of the multiple picks the Bills have in each of those rounds. save the FA money to fix other positions. find a cheap vet running back if needed like a Dion Lewis. Edited November 21, 2019 by atlbillsfan1975 2 1
ProcessYaDigg Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 I have a feeling that Gore might stick around with us for one more year. 1 2
whatdrought Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 I wouldn’t hate having Derrick Henry or Jordan Howard as a power complement to Motor. 6
Dkollidas Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I wouldn’t hate having Derrick Henry or Jordan Howard as a power complement to Motor. I think Henry will be expensive and will stay in Tennessee. Howard could be a nice option. I wouldn’t count out Gore coming back. i also wouldn’t count out signing a veteran who’s a receiving type and draft a pounder late in the draft (AJ Dillon Round 5?)
GoBills808 Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 As always, this says to me in huge flashing letters DON'T DRAFT RBS IN THE FIRST ROUND (also don't spent big $$ in FA either) Think about Fournette- he's a good back. And sure the Jags were still in the end stages of deciding what to do about Bortles. But they took Fournette with the FOURTH OVERALL PICK and passed on both Watson and Mahomes in the process and the kicker is- he's not even a top 5 running back IN HIS OWN DRAFT CLASS 7
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 ......Neon Deon made an interesting comment on NFLN about players getting paid/extended.. not about RB but about Saints WR Michael Thomas.....said, "many guys coast after getting paid but Thomas has taken it to another level....he's gone the other way"...... 2
RyanC883 Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ......Neon Deon made an interesting comment on NFLN about players getting paid/extended.. not about RB but about Saints WR Michael Thomas.....said, "many guys coast after getting paid but Thomas has taken it to another level....he's gone the other way"...... Thomas has been a beast. Could be the NFL MVP, if that ever went to a WR. Dominates game in and out. 2
Plano Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Circlethewagon8404 said: I have a feeling that Gore might stick around with us for one more year. Hopefully he retires this year after we win the SB 3 2
MJS Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Thomas has been a beast. Could be the NFL MVP, if that ever went to a WR. Dominates game in and out. It will probably never happen for a WR to be MVP, because usually the QB gets the credit for a productive WR. But IF it ever could happen, this would be the year, because Thomas has split time with QB's since Brees missed a bunch of games. Can't give the QB the credit for his production this year. BUT, it will never happen. 3
DrDawkinstein Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 If I were a GM, I'd never sign a RB to a big contract. I'd draft them in or after the 4th round only. And when their rookie contract was up, draft another late (or even UDFA). Keep 2-3 on the team, all staggered by a year. You can find hungry, driven, hard-running guys to tote the rock almost anywhere. 3
Mr. WEO Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 Bell, Gurley and Gordon ruined the market for the future.
thenorthremembers Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 3 hours ago, DCOrange said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28121690/all-nfl-running-backs-get-paid-2020-why-recent-deals-look-disasters As always, a good read from Barnwell on a topic that definitely has not at all been beaten to death: the value of RBs. TLDR: Kenyan Drake: likely to hit free agency and sign as the lesser role in a timeshare I think he ends up signing with the Cards to be their feature back. Fully expect them to try and trade Johnson and his contract for a low round pick.
DCOrange Posted November 21, 2019 Author Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: I think he ends up signing with the Cards to be their feature back. Fully expect them to try and trade Johnson and his contract for a low round pick. Will definitely be interesting to see how it plays out. Barnwell's theory is that they won't be able to find a taker for Johnson and they like Edmonds enough and are already paying Johnson a ton so they'll just roll with those two and maybe a draft prospect.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 4 hours ago, BillsRdue said: Interesting. Drake, Cohen, Ekeler Freeman and Lewis would all make a nice compliment to Singletary, especially at the right price. Agreed. They should all be relatively cheap too. 2nd tier RBs ended up with Annual Average values below 3 mil and total guarantee's of about 3. Figure with some inflation - and a lot more talent. 4? per year maybe less? 1
billsbackto81 Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Circlethewagon8404 said: I have a feeling that Gore might stick around with us for one more year. Oh heck no!! He's ready for the glue factory. Rather have AP and Motor. AP showed he still has strength and speed with a less than stellar O line. Gore? Not so much. We can acquire a better option to compliment Devin. APs checkered past might rub some the wrong way but he's clearly the better back at this stage. 1
billsfan89 Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 The Bills are pretty set at RB with Singletary being the all around back and Yeldon being a backup receiving back. They just need to replace Gore as a between the tackles runner who can absorb 25-35% of the snaps in the short yardage and early down situations. That will either come with a lower mid-level free agency decision (probably something in the range of 3-4 million) or in the mid rounds of the draft.
Malazan Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 This reads more like a list of why you don't pay a RB money...How many of those guys are clearly separated from the rest?
JDubya76 Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Ekeler all day long. He’s a multi-tool, Swiss Army knife Edited November 21, 2019 by JDubya76 1
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