BillsFan692 Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 Our offense was pretty awesome when Roman was here -- it was Tyrod's best season wasn't it? Didn't we fire roman after our offense put up like 36 points?
DallasMac Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said: Our offense was pretty awesome when Roman was here -- it was Tyrod's best season wasn't it? Didn't we fire roman after our offense put up like 36 points? 31. Fired after an 0 and 2 start.
WideNine Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, matter2003 said: The mistake people make is they assume just because you are a great coordinator you will automatically make a great head coach. Nothing is farther from the truth. They require a hugely different skill set. Head coaches need to have a skill set of a CEO and have tons of non football decisions to make. They need to oversee and hold their coordinators and other coaches responsible. X's and O's are far less important than their leadership and ability to hold everyone accountable at the position. This is why so many great coordinators make lousy head coaches. Just because you do a great job with X's and O's doesn't mean you can run an organization. I think you are right. There is so much administrative overhead and distraction that comes with being a HC, trying to find the right personnel to make up your staff and keep them pointed in the right direction. Some make the transition and do well others are better as coordinators who just have to focus on their craft.
NickelCity Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 I like Greg Roman. As has been mentioned, he does what most coordinators should, and designs systems to suit the talent at hand. 1
BillsFan692 Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DallasMac said: 31. Fired after an 0 and 2 start. Okay but would you fire an OC who just got done putting up 31 points? I mean it made no sense at the time. Considering Tyrod was coming off a pro-bowl season. Ryan and Whaley are idiots they were trying to save their own stink by canning Roman to placate the fans. Edited November 21, 2019 by BillsFan692
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 I was stoked when we brought him here and pissed that dumb ass rex fired him. Its funny i liked rex defense and offense and he ruined them both, probably why he got rid of Pettine , bc he ran it better. Hard to say how a coordinator will do as a HC, some guys flourish and some are better as coordinators. Hope he gets a shot , time will tell if he is HC material. 2
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 4 hours ago, matter2003 said: The mistake people make is they assume just because you are a great coordinator you will automatically make a great head coach. Nothing is farther from the truth. They require a hugely different skill set. Head coaches need to have a skill set of a CEO and have tons of non football decisions to make. They need to oversee and hold their coordinators and other coaches responsible. X's and O's are far less important than their leadership and ability to hold everyone accountable at the position. This is why so many great coordinators make lousy head coaches. Just because you do a great job with X's and O's doesn't mean you can run an organization. I see what you're saying but almost every coach was a coordinator. So there are plenty of successful coordinators that became great head coaches. In football and most businesses you have to pick the second in command and hope they make it, there really isnt another way to pick a HC. 4 hours ago, whatdrought said: I would imagine wherever he goes becomes a prime landing spot for Cam and/or Jalen Hurts. cam is shot as a runner doubt he regains his status as an effective starter.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: He has certainly improved since leaving Buffalo and if he makes it to HC I hope he does well. I dislike Marrone but have no issues with him and beleive he wanted buffalo to do well. Was Rex's OC 1
Scott7975 Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 He might be but I don't think he will make a very good head coach.
H2o Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 Hope he's not dumb enough to take the Redskins job. That could be a career killer. 1 1
HOUSE Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Bangarang said: He strikes me as someone who would be a better coordinator than HC. BINGO
eball Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 Roman has been interviewing for HC jobs for at least five years. He's a really smart guy and he will probably get his chance soon.
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 7 hours ago, DallasMac said: 31. Fired after an 0 and 2 start. I think it was ‘under the bus throwing time’, and Fat Dumb Brother Defensive Coach wouldn’t fit. 1 1
The Jokeman Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 8 hours ago, DallasMac said: 31. Fired after an 0 and 2 start. It be ironic if he replaces Lynn as HC of the Chargers. 1 1
colin Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 i've kind of studied roman ever since he started at SF. he made michigan's harbaugh look a lot better than he is IMO. his O is borderline genius in it's blocking and match up schemes. where it falls short (as all schemes do fall short at some point) is that it is cumbersome and very inflexible. they have so many formations and packages that you are likely to have pre snap penalties and have very little time to audible and go uptempo. he may have figured some of that out in baltimore, however. he's kind of like what prime rex ryan was on D, but on O. complicated, but in roman's case it is complicated to scheme and staff, rather than complicated to execute, which was rex's downfall, and very tailor made to one thing. i'd like to throw in my usual two cents that he does not form anything around his talent, but has a system which he puts talent into. a coach like billecheck does the same thing, but has enough wrinkles and knows so much about football and his opponent that it seems like he can make anything work, but in reality he's got a philosophy and that's clear in all of his teams.
vincec Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 10 hours ago, KzooMike said: Right....how many teams would have asked Lamar to stop running. Learn how to be a NFL quarterback. This guy did the same thing with Kaep and Tyrod. Again, not nearly the talent of Lamar. But he’s got a special ability in the run game nobody else in the league has. In a league with growing pedestrian QB play, that and great defense can do a lot of damage. Just think of how good Kaepernick and Taylor looked with Roman at OC compared to how they looked elsewhere. Plus, in Buffalo they had the best running game in the league outside of the QB as well. As has been mentioned, being a good coordinator is totally different from being a good HC (see Phillips, Wade) but he knows the running game like nobody else. 4 hours ago, H2o said: Hope he's not dumb enough to take the Redskins job. That could be a career killer. If it was a good job then it wouldn't be available. Someone needs to go in there and turn it into something good.
auburnbillsbacker Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 The Bills under his leadership had a top 10 offense with Tyrod Taylor as the QB. It was a shame he was fired.
H2o Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 51 minutes ago, vincec said: If it was a good job then it wouldn't be available. Someone needs to go in there and turn it into something good. Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen are the biggest hindrance to anything "good" ever being in Washington. 1
blacklabel Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 I have no idea if the dude is HC material but he's a pretty good coordinator. He can design a run game like nobody's business but one of the reasons he's been let go from every OC job he's had is because his passing game designs are pretty easy to defend against. Right now he's kinda got a perfect storm situation going on in Baltimore with Jackson and that tight end group they have.
iinii Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 13 hours ago, matter2003 said: The mistake people make is they assume just because you are a great coordinator you will automatically make a great head coach. Nothing is farther from the truth. They require a hugely different skill set. Head coaches need to have a skill set of a CEO and have tons of non football decisions to make. They need to oversee and hold their coordinators and other coaches responsible. X's and O's are far less important than their leadership and ability to hold everyone accountable at the position. This is why so many great coordinators make lousy head coaches. Just because you do a great job with X's and O's doesn't mean you can run an organization. I agree and immediately think of Belichick. He is the CEO and handles the X’s and the O’s. Definite outlier.
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