Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 https://triblive.com/sports/tim-benz-steelers-mike-tomlins-comments-on-myles-garrett-triggers-rage-from-browns-fans/ "During his weekly press conference Tuesday, Pittsburgh Steelers coach Mike Tomlin made the following comments about Myles Garrett swinging his helmet at Mason Rudolph in last Thursday’s game. He was asked if it was at all a “teachable moment” for his players. “I don’t know that we did anything to make it happen in the first place,” Tomlin replied. “That’s why I said we didn’t have anything to learn from it.” Mary Kay Cabot tweeted that out, and Cleveland Fans went off the rails. Your Thoughts? I personally find Tomlin's decision to run a short pass play there kind of questionable. Why put your players at risk, especially your young QB? If you're going to run a play, take a shot: make it the longest pass that you can. And I think there is a teachable moment there for young Rudolph that the best ability is "availability" - don't let your temper put you at risk. On the other hand, the blame-deflection game by Cleveland fans IS unreal, as called out above.
Bangarang Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 Sometimes, fans say really stupid things. 6
Happy Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 Really the only teachable moment here is that you don't need to run a play (other than kneeling) with 8 seconds left and down 2 TDs. Doubt Tomlin learns from this, though since he is not the sharpest tool in the shed. And I'm not excusing Myles Garret at all, I think he was clearly in the wrong; Tomlin had zero chance to win the game and shouldn't have run an actual play in this particular instance. 4
Tenhigh Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Sometimes, fans say really stupid things. So does Tomlin. Rudolph is not without any blame here. 2 1 1
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 Tomlin is a scum as well. Anyone remember the sideline trip? 5 1
Bills fan since 87 Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, billsfanmiami(oh) said: Tomlin is a scum as well. Anyone remember the sideline trip? How that's not something that warranted a multiple game suspension I'll never know 1 1 2
Mango Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 I get the whole MR went for Myles Garrets helmet first. I have 2 thoughts on that: 1. Mason Rudolph didn’t succeed in taking his helmet off and then also did not swing it at anybody’s head. 2. It was a late hit and MG was driving the QB into the ground. Both penalties. The whole thing looked like a scuffle on the ground, that happens sometimes in football. Not a huge deal until.... I am with Tomlin on this one. 16
DrDawkinstein Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 Cleveland fans can cry all they want, Garrett is still the scumbag here. Everything that happened was "regular football stuff" all the way to the point that Garrett decided to cross the line and swing a helmet at an unprotected head. Doesnt matter what lead up to it because nothing else crossed any lines. HE crossed the line. Funny enough, not a SINGLE player-turned-analyst has defended Garrett. Not even some of the dumber ones that normally look for contrarian hot takes. Every one of them agrees Garrett was the one and only one to cross the line. 7 1
whatdrought Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 Shoulda said “yeah, we learned that their best player doesn’t want to play this year.” Really troll the brownies. ? 1
Seasons1992 Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Sometimes, fans say really stupid things. Where in the WORLD on the Internet did you find this nonsense? 2 1
whatdrought Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Cleveland fans can cry all they want, Garrett is still the scumbag here. Everything that happened was "regular football stuff" all the way to the point that Garrett decided to cross the line and swing a helmet at an unprotected head. Doesnt matter what lead up to it because nothing else crossed any lines. HE crossed the line. Funny enough, not a SINGLE player-turned-analyst has defended Garrett. Not even some of the dumber ones that normally look for contrarian hot takes. Every one of them agrees Garrett was the one and only one to cross the line. James Jones made a small attempt to defend Garret but he gave it up quickly when realizing how much of an idiot it made him look. 2
Codyny13 Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 Funny somebody questioned the play call as the cause lol...that’s laughable. Garret started the nonsense in the way he took him down, in my eyes, it looked as if he was trying to add more to the hit by twisting him. I don’t see any problem with Mason doing what he did to try and get him off him. You can’t expect a grown ass man to just walk away after getting your helmet ripped off. 1
row_33 Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 scary how some people insist on thinking they are like Einstein for trying to see anything other than a scuffle (doesn't matter if the QB started it) and someone losing his cool and going ultra-violent in the heat of the moment can't do this ***** on the field, you kids at home pay attention 1 1
Say When... Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Mango said: I get the whole MR went for Myles Garrets helmet first. I have 2 thoughts on that: 1. Mason Rudolph didn’t succeed in taking his helmet off and then also did not swing it at anybody’s head. 2. It was a late hit and MG was driving the QB into the ground. Both penalties. The whole thing looked like a scuffle on the ground, that happens sometimes in football. Not a huge deal until.... I am with Tomlin on this one. This ^^ - that was nothing more than a frustrated player having a bad game reacting to #2 above with "get off me!". for me, i used to feel sorry for Browns fans (see the irony there?) as i remember them being a much more humble fanbase but i toured a few of their boards the week we were to play them, misplaced anger, cockiness rivaling Pats fans, horrible statements about teams/players, hell even each other. and this is beyond "we're tired of losing" this was whiney, crybaby, wet the bed behavior. anyway, they now rank up in my top 5 of worst NFL fan bases and that's unfortunate, i thought they were better than that.
row_33 Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Say When... said: This ^^ - that was nothing more than a frustrated player having a bad game reacting to #2 above with "get off me!". for me, i used to feel sorry for Browns fans (see the irony there?) as i remember them being a much more humble fanbase but i toured a few of their boards the week we were to play them, misplaced anger, cockiness rivaling Pats fans, horrible statements about teams/players, hell even each other. and this is beyond "we're tired of losing" this was whiney, crybaby, wet the bed behavior. anyway, they now rank up in my top 5 of worst NFL fan bases and that's unfortunate, i thought they were better than that. it's not really the fanbase or soul of Jim Brown and Otto Graham, that went to another city.... Edited November 20, 2019 by row_33
PatsFanNH Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 40 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: https://triblive.com/sports/tim-benz-steelers-mike-tomlins-comments-on-myles-garrett-triggers-rage-from-browns-fans/ "During his weekly press conference Tuesday, Pittsburgh Steelers coach Mike Tomlin made the following comments about Myles Garrett swinging his helmet at Mason Rudolph in last Thursday’s game. He was asked if it was at all a “teachable moment” for his players. “I don’t know that we did anything to make it happen in the first place,” Tomlin replied. “That’s why I said we didn’t have anything to learn from it.” Mary Kay Cabot tweeted that out, and Cleveland Fans went off the rails. Your Thoughts? I personally find Tomlin's decision to run a short pass play there kind of questionable. Why put your players at risk, especially your young QB? If you're going to run a play, take a shot: make it the longest pass that you can. And I think there is a teachable moment there for young Rudolph that the best ability is "availability" - don't let your temper put you at risk. On the other hand, the blame-deflection game by Cleveland fans IS unreal, as called out above. Tomlinson is a tool! Of course it was a teachable moment, how? By teaching them to disengage and walk away especially a QB! Garrett was the ultimate tool, but Pouncey And Rudolph were also Dumb. I’m shocked Rudolph didn’t get a game himself for the ruckus.. whenever you get suspended it’s a teachable moment how prevent said suspension.
njbuff Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Cleveland fans can cry all they want, Garrett is still the scumbag here. Everything that happened was "regular football stuff" all the way to the point that Garrett decided to cross the line and swing a helmet at an unprotected head. Doesnt matter what lead up to it because nothing else crossed any lines. HE crossed the line. Funny enough, not a SINGLE player-turned-analyst has defended Garrett. Not even some of the dumber ones that normally look for contrarian hot takes. Every one of them agrees Garrett was the one and only one to cross the line. Actually, Bart Scott was the closest one in defending Garrett. At least Scott tried to talk about Garrett’s side of Garrett’s stupidness.
apuszczalowski Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Cleveland fans can cry all they want, Garrett is still the scumbag here. Everything that happened was "regular football stuff" all the way to the point that Garrett decided to cross the line and swing a helmet at an unprotected head. Doesnt matter what lead up to it because nothing else crossed any lines. HE crossed the line. Funny enough, not a SINGLE player-turned-analyst has defended Garrett. Not even some of the dumber ones that normally look for contrarian hot takes. Every one of them agrees Garrett was the one and only one to cross the line. I saw Gronk on Fox's pre-pregame show kind of defend it by saying there are times you blackout from anger building up during the game and then do something stupid that you immediately regret. He then used his hit on White as an example, saying he was held and had a bunch of things happen during the game to him that his frustration blew up and he dropped the elbow on him which he immediately realised was wrong and regretted. His whole explanation sounded more like he was suffering 'roid rage though......
eball Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 The only takeaway from this is how embarrassing it is to see and hear Browns fans trying to justify Garrett's actions. 1 1
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 Fans of the Cleveland Browns have no issues cheering for scum like Jarvis Landry and Kareem Hunt. I'm not shocked at all they try and justify what was likely the most vile action on an NFL field in the history of the league. I don't care if Garret writes poetry, loves dinosaurs and is a good dude off the field. What he did and the level he reached on the field was beyond inexcusable. Rudolph, in my opinion acted like a punk. I wouldn't have been the least bit upset if Garrett gave him a good old fashioned right cross. But to forcibly strike another person on the head with a blunt object is too far. 1
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